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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Glade Riven" data-source="post: 5135418" data-attributes="member: 86468">Wow..I didn't keep up with this thread, 'cause intially there didn't seem to be any interest... The only thing really broken with the Warblade is that all it takes is a standard action or a basic attack to recharge all maneuvers. Crusader is kinda dumb, but if you hot swap his martial progression in place of paladin spellcasting (at least prior to Pathfinder), it's not bad as far as balance (you think it would be, but it turned out not-so-much when in play). Swordsage can make a decent gish with the rules in the book (swap manuevers for spells and drop armor). All in all, in the campaigns I've played in the 3.5 core barbarian dwarf in the party was still significantly more powerful due to extremely lucky HP rolls and an absurdly high Con & Str. When our group converted to Pathfinder, it only made him even scarier. The one time I played a warblade, it was egregious (3d8+1d6 shocking chain fullblade) - but that was essentually D20 sliders and the car did far, far more damage. The build I came up with using the feats with the specific rules of the book can add a couple of special abilities, but being usable 1/encounter, with only a few low-level maneuvers to pick from, it can add utility but isn't really a power-boost. There are other ways in Pathfinder to powerbuild a rogue with the core rulebook that would be a tad stronger. I can see the flavor bugging people, but the boost given to the core classes in Pathfinder puts it on par (power-wise) with Bo9S .</blockquote>

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