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<blockquote data-quote="Nimloth" data-source="post: 5106552" data-attributes="member: 54068">How about cards?I dislike rolling and am not a big fan of Point buy.&nbsp; The rolling process is fair, but the outcome can be anything but fair.&nbsp; Point buy is fair, but not very organic.&nbsp; I do like the organic nature of some randomness in stat creation.&nbsp; Stat arrays are ok, but when was the last time you saw a wizard not put their highest number in INT? [sblock=A Rolling Story]So my group was discussing how to make characters for a new campaign and we had decided that everyone would roll a stat block (in order) and anyone could play any stat array.&nbsp; The Powergamer of the group unilaterally (we were still discussing the details)decided to start rolling 4d6, drop low.&nbsp;&nbsp; He rolled 16, 15, 12, 17, 18, 15.&nbsp; The group nearly unanimously (only the Powergamer voted no) decided all stat arrays had to be from 28-32 point buy equivalent and would be adjusted down or up as appropriate.&nbsp; The array I rolled (after we decided on the method) was 13, 12, 7, 9, 10, 11. The really funny part was that the Powergamer didn't understand why everyone voted against him.[/sblock][sblock=Our current method]1- Take 20 cards from 1-6(totaling whatever power level the DM/group can agree on*)2- Set aside a 1 and a 63- randomly deal out 3 cards, IN ORDER, for str, dex...4- add the 6 to 1 stat# and the 1 to another stat (Before or after revealing the random cards depending on how cruel the DM wants to be)5- add up the cards and adjust for race* example: elite array of 15, 14, 13, 12, 10, 8 = 72; Could be (1-6)x3, 6, 3# 18 maximum, lose any excess[/sblock]It's organic (random, in order), but fair.&nbsp; The +6 will let you make a modest roll good if you really want to play a (insert class here).&nbsp; The +1 lets you turn an odd number even.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nimloth, post: 5106552, member: 54068"] [b]How about cards?[/b] I dislike rolling and am not a big fan of Point buy. The rolling process is fair, but the outcome can be anything but fair. Point buy is fair, but not very organic. I do like the organic nature of some randomness in stat creation. Stat arrays are ok, but when was the last time you saw a wizard not put their highest number in INT? [sblock=A Rolling Story]So my group was discussing how to make characters for a new campaign and we had decided that everyone would roll a stat block (in order) and anyone could play any stat array. The Powergamer of the group unilaterally (we were still discussing the details)decided to start rolling 4d6, drop low. He rolled 16, 15, 12, 17, 18, 15. The group nearly unanimously (only the Powergamer voted no) decided all stat arrays had to be from 28-32 point buy equivalent and would be adjusted down or up as appropriate. The array I rolled (after we decided on the method) was 13, 12, 7, 9, 10, 11. The really funny part was that the Powergamer didn't understand why everyone voted against him. [/sblock] [sblock=Our current method] 1- Take 20 cards from 1-6(totaling whatever power level the DM/group can agree on*) 2- Set aside a 1 and a 6 3- randomly deal out 3 cards, IN ORDER, for str, dex... 4- add the 6 to 1 stat# and the 1 to another stat (Before or after revealing the random cards depending on how cruel the DM wants to be) 5- add up the cards and adjust for race * example: elite array of 15, 14, 13, 12, 10, 8 = 72; Could be (1-6)x3, 6, 3 # 18 maximum, lose any excess[/sblock] It's organic (random, in order), but fair. The +6 will let you make a modest roll good if you really want to play a (insert class here). The +1 lets you turn an odd number even. [/QUOTE]

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