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<blockquote data-quote="Set" data-source="post: 5132079" data-attributes="member: 41584">Point buy.&nbsp; I prefer 20 (using the Pathfinder numbers).&nbsp; 15 gets a little tight and 25 is a little too generous for me.&nbsp; I just about never take attributes below 10, and even if I'm playing a gnome or something, I buy strength back up to 10.&nbsp; At the other end, I see a lot of 'builds' that start out with 18 to 20 in their prime attribute, and I'm more likely to put a 14-17 there, depending on the class (a SAD class gets the 17, a MAD class gets 14 in a couple).&nbsp;I loathe dice-rolling for stats.&nbsp; Back in 1st edition, I would occasionally roll so badly that my character couldn't qualify for *any* class, lacking the 9 Str needed for Fighter, the 9 Dex needed for Thief, etc.&nbsp; Even in 3rd edition, I would roll a 'mulligan' (a character with a net negative in stat modifiers) often enough that we made special rules for me.&nbsp; In V&amp;V, I'd be the fool who rolled a 1 and had one super-power after buying off his Physical Disability weakness, while the dude across the table from me had seven super-powers, two of which came with 1d6 other powers...&nbsp;Call of Cthulhu?&nbsp; &quot;I want to play a weedy researcher, like the protagonist from just about every Lovecraft story ever!&quot;&nbsp; Rolls dice.&nbsp; &quot;Okay, you have a higher strength than anyone else in the party, and a lower intellect than anyone else in the party, and it's possible, with these numbers, that you are illiterate.&nbsp; Charles Dexter Ward, you're not.&nbsp; You're the sort of person who Lovecraft would introduce as the inbred fish-mutant who eats the protagonist...&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Set, post: 5132079, member: 41584"] Point buy. I prefer 20 (using the Pathfinder numbers). 15 gets a little tight and 25 is a little too generous for me. I just about never take attributes below 10, and even if I'm playing a gnome or something, I buy strength back up to 10. At the other end, I see a lot of 'builds' that start out with 18 to 20 in their prime attribute, and I'm more likely to put a 14-17 there, depending on the class (a SAD class gets the 17, a MAD class gets 14 in a couple). I loathe dice-rolling for stats. Back in 1st edition, I would occasionally roll so badly that my character couldn't qualify for *any* class, lacking the 9 Str needed for Fighter, the 9 Dex needed for Thief, etc. Even in 3rd edition, I would roll a 'mulligan' (a character with a net negative in stat modifiers) often enough that we made special rules for me. In V&V, I'd be the fool who rolled a 1 and had one super-power after buying off his Physical Disability weakness, while the dude across the table from me had seven super-powers, two of which came with 1d6 other powers... Call of Cthulhu? "I want to play a weedy researcher, like the protagonist from just about every Lovecraft story ever!" Rolls dice. "Okay, you have a higher strength than anyone else in the party, and a lower intellect than anyone else in the party, and it's possible, with these numbers, that you are illiterate. Charles Dexter Ward, you're not. You're the sort of person who Lovecraft would introduce as the inbred fish-mutant who eats the protagonist..." [/QUOTE]

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