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Pathfinder Character Creation: Point Buy or Roll of the Die?
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<blockquote data-quote="Falling Icicle" data-source="post: 5135269" data-attributes="member: 17077"><p>I perfer point buy to rolling. Point buy makes every character even and lets the DM set the power level where he likes. You don't have one character that is significantly better than others. It also avoids all of the drama that can go with rolling (everything from whining, cheating to character suicide). </p><p></p><p>Point buy does tend to encourage min-maxing, but the DM can avoid this simply by limiting starting characters to no more than a 16. I've never felt the need to do that, but it's worth mentioning for those who are bothered by every character having an 18 in something. I think that the increased cost for higher ability scores is already adequate encouragement to not put an 18 in your primary stat, since you can get so many points elsewhere.</p><p></p><p>To the OP: When people tell you that a Dwarf is a suboptimal choice for a sorcerer, they are correct. But that doesn't mean you can't still have fun with the character. All a -2 ability score amounts to is a -1 save DC and one or two less spells per day. It's not a big deal. As long as you start with at least a 14 in your charisma, you'll be able to qualify for 9th level spells in the end, so it's all good. </p><p></p><p>Some people care a great deal more about character optimization than they do about roleplaying - and that's fine, to each his own. But some of the most fun I've had was when playing a suboptimal character. I remember the look on my friends faces when I told them I wanted to play a lowly kobold. One player even jokingly suggested I get the opposite of a LA (a bonus level) for doing so. That character turned out to be one of the funnest I've ever played. And right now, I'm playing a Gnome Wizard, which is hardly the most optimal choice since there are now 4 other races that can get a bonus to Intelligence. But you know what? I don't care, my character is more than powerful enough for his own good and I'm having alot of fun - which in the end is all that matters. So if you want to play a Dwarf sorcerer, I say more power to you! You will probably surprise everyone by just how effective you are even though you picked a suboptimal race.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Falling Icicle, post: 5135269, member: 17077"] I perfer point buy to rolling. Point buy makes every character even and lets the DM set the power level where he likes. You don't have one character that is significantly better than others. It also avoids all of the drama that can go with rolling (everything from whining, cheating to character suicide). Point buy does tend to encourage min-maxing, but the DM can avoid this simply by limiting starting characters to no more than a 16. I've never felt the need to do that, but it's worth mentioning for those who are bothered by every character having an 18 in something. I think that the increased cost for higher ability scores is already adequate encouragement to not put an 18 in your primary stat, since you can get so many points elsewhere. To the OP: When people tell you that a Dwarf is a suboptimal choice for a sorcerer, they are correct. But that doesn't mean you can't still have fun with the character. All a -2 ability score amounts to is a -1 save DC and one or two less spells per day. It's not a big deal. As long as you start with at least a 14 in your charisma, you'll be able to qualify for 9th level spells in the end, so it's all good. Some people care a great deal more about character optimization than they do about roleplaying - and that's fine, to each his own. But some of the most fun I've had was when playing a suboptimal character. I remember the look on my friends faces when I told them I wanted to play a lowly kobold. One player even jokingly suggested I get the opposite of a LA (a bonus level) for doing so. That character turned out to be one of the funnest I've ever played. And right now, I'm playing a Gnome Wizard, which is hardly the most optimal choice since there are now 4 other races that can get a bonus to Intelligence. But you know what? I don't care, my character is more than powerful enough for his own good and I'm having alot of fun - which in the end is all that matters. So if you want to play a Dwarf sorcerer, I say more power to you! You will probably surprise everyone by just how effective you are even though you picked a suboptimal race. [/QUOTE]
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