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Message: <blockquote data-quote="pawsplay" data-source="post: 4938584" data-attributes="member: 15538">This one turned into a real workout. I took the rules literally about treating weapon + natural weapon use as working like two-weapon fighting, so I used 1x Str bonus for damage. Poisons... work very differently. None of the example poisons used multiple effects, but the paralysis seemed an important aspect of the original creature. Originally, I had the idea of guesstimating a CR based on the original's XP value, but I had to abandon that plan. To be a faithful conversion, I decided I needed to start with 8 HD, and the original had the AC of plate mail, so I settled on a natural armor of +8, a point higher than a Large scorpion. From what I intuit of the rules, a stinger is going to be a secondary weapon. Working backwards, I compared the numbers to a possible range of CR 3 to 8, and used the MM suggestions for gauging the numbers. For CR 5, AC is a little low, saves are a point high, and attacks vary (single ranseur attack is high, full attacks and sting is low). So CR 5 seemed like a good compromise point. Plus, if I treat cleric levels as nonassociated, that would make a level 8 cleric CR 9. CR may be low; the critter has respectable fighting stats plus a nasty poison. CR 6 may be better, pushing this creature out of the "soldier" role slightly.</blockquote>