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<blockquote data-quote="Firos" data-source="post: 4879356" data-attributes="member: 68533"><p><strong>Reasons?</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p>Perhaps because it would make your report of a sold-out preorder seem like something more than a manufactured piece of marketing? It is hard to avoid this conclusion of course:</p><p> </p><p><span style="color: mediumturquoise">"We thought we had printed enough to last us at least until the end of this year, but skyrocketing demand from our customers and distributors has us reprinting already," Lisa Stevens, CEO of Paizo said. "We have a healthy amount heading to Gen Con, but we think even those will go fast, so don't delay in picking up your copy!"</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: mediumturquoise">"The phenomenal support of the constantly growing community of Pathfinder RPG players has been a staggering sight to behold," said Paizo Publisher Erik Mona. "To sell out a hugely ambitious print run before the release date just goes to show what an immense audience this game will enjoy in the years to come."</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: white">I suppose the first comment is a much better spin than "We didn't have enough confidence in our product!" or "We can't make good sales projections!"<img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /></span></p><p> </p><p>The second is an interesting prediction about the future; it almost seems ironic, given the first.</p><p> </p><p>Yours is not the only company to do this kind of thing, of course, but considering how so many fans laud the "opennness" and "appreciation of customers" that seems central to Paizo's business practice, "we don't release those figures" is pretty ad hoc. Is this really a vital company secret? When the beta was released, you showed no such reticence:</p><p> </p><p><span style="color: mediumturquoise">"When we announced our intentions to stick with the 3.5 rules via the Open Game License, many internet pundits declared us fools for not going with the flow of the new 4th edition," said Paizo's Publisher, Erik Mona. "The 25,000 individual download threshold suggests to me that we were right to identify a stable audience for the <em>Pathfinder Roleplaying Game</em>, and the response to our Open Playtest has been nothing short of phenomenal."</span></p><p> </p><p>Of course, I don't like this kind of marketing when anyone does it. Who cares if it sold out when we don't know how many sold? Who would make anything other than the most broadly speculative and borderline spurious claims based on such vague information? It was the same when Wizards did this for 3e, and 4e. Perhaps if companies hit numbers they thought were worth noting, those figures would be cited. Things like "over a million people play D&D each month". Meh.</p><p> </p><p>Not that that means Pathfinder is a bad game. It is based on a good game, after all. I wish I could just get the art, though.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Firos, post: 4879356, member: 68533"] [b]Reasons?[/b] Perhaps because it would make your report of a sold-out preorder seem like something more than a manufactured piece of marketing? It is hard to avoid this conclusion of course: [COLOR=mediumturquoise]"We thought we had printed enough to last us at least until the end of this year, but skyrocketing demand from our customers and distributors has us reprinting already," Lisa Stevens, CEO of Paizo said. "We have a healthy amount heading to Gen Con, but we think even those will go fast, so don't delay in picking up your copy!"[/COLOR] [COLOR=mediumturquoise]"The phenomenal support of the constantly growing community of Pathfinder RPG players has been a staggering sight to behold," said Paizo Publisher Erik Mona. "To sell out a hugely ambitious print run before the release date just goes to show what an immense audience this game will enjoy in the years to come."[/COLOR] [COLOR=white]I suppose the first comment is a much better spin than "We didn't have enough confidence in our product!" or "We can't make good sales projections!":lol:[/COLOR] The second is an interesting prediction about the future; it almost seems ironic, given the first. Yours is not the only company to do this kind of thing, of course, but considering how so many fans laud the "opennness" and "appreciation of customers" that seems central to Paizo's business practice, "we don't release those figures" is pretty ad hoc. Is this really a vital company secret? When the beta was released, you showed no such reticence: [COLOR=mediumturquoise]"When we announced our intentions to stick with the 3.5 rules via the Open Game License, many internet pundits declared us fools for not going with the flow of the new 4th edition," said Paizo's Publisher, Erik Mona. "The 25,000 individual download threshold suggests to me that we were right to identify a stable audience for the [I]Pathfinder Roleplaying Game[/I], and the response to our Open Playtest has been nothing short of phenomenal."[/COLOR] Of course, I don't like this kind of marketing when anyone does it. Who cares if it sold out when we don't know how many sold? Who would make anything other than the most broadly speculative and borderline spurious claims based on such vague information? It was the same when Wizards did this for 3e, and 4e. Perhaps if companies hit numbers they thought were worth noting, those figures would be cited. Things like "over a million people play D&D each month". Meh. Not that that means Pathfinder is a bad game. It is based on a good game, after all. I wish I could just get the art, though. [/QUOTE]
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