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<blockquote data-quote="Aldern Foxglove" data-source="post: 5412431" data-attributes="member: 97308">Max stat to begin 15, gnome gets +2 Charisma - not Int - so lets assume a Sorcerer begins with a 17.&nbsp; He's 20th level so 5 stat boosts for 22, he's only got 100,000gp to spend which there are vague guidelines for spreading out so lets assume a +4 Charisma Item at best giving us a 26.&nbsp; That's a ninth level spell DC of 30 for illusion only.The only spell this really applies to is Weird - which is a waste of time for the sensible spell caster imo - &quot;Hahaha, take a 9th level spell, that errr, gives you two saves - will and fort - and requires you to fail both in order to do anything useful...&nbsp; What do you mean everyone who has a crappy will has a decent fort, and that there's an eight level spell which will often be cast upon an entire high level party that makes you immune to the spell.&nbsp; And everyone has to be within 30ft. which is just silly at high levels for it to effect multiple target?&nbsp; Awww, bum.&quot;Seems perfectly reasonable for a 20th level NPC to me.&nbsp; Especially one that's obviously been created to focus on illusions - two feats, race, etc.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Aldern Foxglove, post: 5412431, member: 97308"] Max stat to begin 15, gnome gets +2 Charisma - not Int - so lets assume a Sorcerer begins with a 17. He's 20th level so 5 stat boosts for 22, he's only got 100,000gp to spend which there are vague guidelines for spreading out so lets assume a +4 Charisma Item at best giving us a 26. That's a ninth level spell DC of 30 for illusion only. The only spell this really applies to is Weird - which is a waste of time for the sensible spell caster imo - [COLOR=Lime]"Hahaha, take a 9th level spell, that errr, gives you two saves - will and fort - and requires you to fail both in order to do anything useful... What do you mean everyone who has a crappy will has a decent fort, and that there's an eight level spell which will often be cast upon an entire high level party that makes you immune to the spell. And everyone has to be within 30ft. which is just silly at high levels for it to effect multiple target? Awww, bum."[/COLOR] Seems perfectly reasonable for a 20th level NPC to me. Especially one that's obviously been created to focus on illusions - two feats, race, etc. [/QUOTE]

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