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<blockquote data-quote="Aegir" data-source="post: 4127623" data-attributes="member: 52089"><p>The whole point of a new edition of anything (at its core) is to take what one learns from the previous editions and fix it: in short, to take a step forward. The RPG industry (and perhaps even <em>just</em> D&D) is one of the very few places where this is seen as such a bad thing, and thats caused mostly by the business model that corporate RPG companies use (printing supplements for the ruleset on a regular basis).</p><p></p><p>Pathfinder has the right idea by making their RPG a longterm open playtest, but frankly, as its own system I think its doomed to be either an outright failure, or an extremely short-term thing specifically because of their design goals. Pathfinder simply can't fix all the issues 3E has and remain backwards compatible: so while their rules may slow the bleeding somewhat (if even that much), they're still working off what amounts to a system whose flaws have been exposed, and (so far) refusing to make the needed changes because of a desire for backwards compatibility.</p><p></p><p>I don't think 4E is coming too soon: in fact, for me personally, it should've come about 18 months ago, when the biggest flaws in 3E really started to hinder my gaming, and I gave up on 3.x to look for something else. Right now I'm making due with Iron Heroes (which while still d20, has taken steps to fix several flaws), but I literally cannot wait to move over to 4E.</p><p></p><p>Will it have its own problems? Sure. Does that mean its too soon? No, it means that once those problems begin to show themselves, its time to start recording them and looking into how to fix them for 5E.</p><p></p><p>Things evolve, and evolution is a <strong>good</strong> thing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Aegir, post: 4127623, member: 52089"] The whole point of a new edition of anything (at its core) is to take what one learns from the previous editions and fix it: in short, to take a step forward. The RPG industry (and perhaps even [I]just[/I] D&D) is one of the very few places where this is seen as such a bad thing, and thats caused mostly by the business model that corporate RPG companies use (printing supplements for the ruleset on a regular basis). Pathfinder has the right idea by making their RPG a longterm open playtest, but frankly, as its own system I think its doomed to be either an outright failure, or an extremely short-term thing specifically because of their design goals. Pathfinder simply can't fix all the issues 3E has and remain backwards compatible: so while their rules may slow the bleeding somewhat (if even that much), they're still working off what amounts to a system whose flaws have been exposed, and (so far) refusing to make the needed changes because of a desire for backwards compatibility. I don't think 4E is coming too soon: in fact, for me personally, it should've come about 18 months ago, when the biggest flaws in 3E really started to hinder my gaming, and I gave up on 3.x to look for something else. Right now I'm making due with Iron Heroes (which while still d20, has taken steps to fix several flaws), but I literally cannot wait to move over to 4E. Will it have its own problems? Sure. Does that mean its too soon? No, it means that once those problems begin to show themselves, its time to start recording them and looking into how to fix them for 5E. Things evolve, and evolution is a [B]good[/B] thing. [/QUOTE]
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