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<blockquote data-quote="Scribble" data-source="post: 4706538" data-attributes="member: 23977">To be fair though White Wolf made a name for itself through the games it sold: Vampire (I get to play a Vampire?) Wherewolf (I get to play a werewolf?) and not through the name White Wolf.Pathfinder... I get to find paths? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :P"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" />At the time Vampires and such were pretty big then, so I think the live action version had a little more help catching on (recognition wise) with the outside public because goth kids got to dress up and play vampires.So while I agree, Pathfinder could stand to take a lions share of gamers who play 4e if 4e goes under (and I dissagree with your gut feeling) I don't think it will ever have the recognition that D&amp;D has... Or that Whitewolf games have.Not because I think it's a bad game, but because I don't see anything on the outside factoring in. (Like D&amp;D being new, and negative publicity, and Vampire being about vampires in a time when people were into vampires. And its own share of negative publicity)If that makes any sense.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Scribble, post: 4706538, member: 23977"] To be fair though White Wolf made a name for itself through the games it sold: Vampire (I get to play a Vampire?) Wherewolf (I get to play a werewolf?) and not through the name White Wolf. Pathfinder... I get to find paths? :P At the time Vampires and such were pretty big then, so I think the live action version had a little more help catching on (recognition wise) with the outside public because goth kids got to dress up and play vampires. So while I agree, Pathfinder could stand to take a lions share of gamers who play 4e if 4e goes under (and I dissagree with your gut feeling) I don't think it will ever have the recognition that D&D has... Or that Whitewolf games have. Not because I think it's a bad game, but because I don't see anything on the outside factoring in. (Like D&D being new, and negative publicity, and Vampire being about vampires in a time when people were into vampires. And its own share of negative publicity) If that makes any sense. [/QUOTE]

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