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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dire Bare" data-source="post: 7679956" data-attributes="member: 18182">Lighten up guys . . .Wha?I think you are forgetting that the d20 bust came after the d20 boom, which launched the careers of many still successful game designers, and launched a number of still successful companies, and gave us a ton of very high quality game products, game lines, including Pathfinder.The d20 License/OGL was a HUGE success! Not a sustainable one, but a grand success none-the-less.That never really happened. Paizo only outsold D&D when WotC wasn't producing D&D products, and that had nothing to do with Dancey or the d20 License he championed.Software and videogame projects fail all the time, way more than they succeed. It's a tough business. With the online WoD and Pathfinder games, how much of that was Dancey's "fault", if blame even needs to be assigned at all, much less to a single person who is but a part of a larger team.Dancey wasn't among the layoffs. Dancey left Goblinworks prior due to personal concerns . . . and the subtext was that something not fun is going on in Dancey's personal life. Exactly what is none of our business, but I very much have sympathy for the man and whatever it is that he's going through.Dancey has most certainly come across as somewhat arrogant (or, perhaps, overly proud?) in the past, but that's hardly a cardinal sin to be super-hyped about the projects you champion and believe in. Dancey is cool people, and for some reason gets a lot of unfair hate (normal in this fandom, I suppose), but he certainly isn't perfect or always right. Just because he ended up being wrong in this case doesn't lessen my sympathy for him and the other team members at Goblinworks who are out of a job and a creative project that won't see the light of day.I wasn't impressed with anything regarding Pathfinder Online, and I'm not sad nor surprised it's vaporware, other than the folks involved who lost out, of course.EDIT: Realized my wording wasn't the best . . . Mistwell, I'm not accusing you of laying down the hate on poor ol' Dancey, just that he is often the target of unfair internet rage. Although I do think you are being a bit unfair . . .</blockquote>

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