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<blockquote data-quote="Kerrick" data-source="post: 4648102" data-attributes="member: 4722"><p>Yes and no. Imagine, if you will, a mage bad guy with a load of minions. The PC mage is in the back of the group, countering the bad guy's spells so the PC fighters/rogues can take care of the minions without the bad guy raining down spells on them. I've seen this in action, many times - I used to play in a Neverwinter Nights PW (online MMO); we had groups who would go bugbear hunting against 25th-30th level bugbear champions and shamans, and a mage (or bard) who could counter the shaman's spells was invaluable.</p><p></p><p></p><p>How? You said yourself that countering is "casting a spell", and you can't cast two spells in a round unless one of them is quickened. An immediate counterspell is not, IMO, the same as a quickened spell, and thus the sorcerer is on the same footing as everyone else.</p><p></p><p></p><p>That's a cool idea - if you do a counter as an immediate action, you have to make a caster level check, because you don't have the time to focus the magic properly. If you counter as a readied action, it works automatically.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kerrick, post: 4648102, member: 4722"] Yes and no. Imagine, if you will, a mage bad guy with a load of minions. The PC mage is in the back of the group, countering the bad guy's spells so the PC fighters/rogues can take care of the minions without the bad guy raining down spells on them. I've seen this in action, many times - I used to play in a Neverwinter Nights PW (online MMO); we had groups who would go bugbear hunting against 25th-30th level bugbear champions and shamans, and a mage (or bard) who could counter the shaman's spells was invaluable. How? You said yourself that countering is "casting a spell", and you can't cast two spells in a round unless one of them is quickened. An immediate counterspell is not, IMO, the same as a quickened spell, and thus the sorcerer is on the same footing as everyone else. That's a cool idea - if you do a counter as an immediate action, you have to make a caster level check, because you don't have the time to focus the magic properly. If you counter as a readied action, it works automatically. [/QUOTE]
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