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<blockquote data-quote="Quijenoth" data-source="post: 4890242" data-attributes="member: 20025"><p>For Me Pathfinder will become my new Core Ruleset. Pathfinder has addressed alot of issues with the new rules that has plagued my groups for years now and while some houserules will surface Pathfinder still allows me to use the huge collection of d20 material I have purchased over the past 5+ years with little or no alterations necessary.</p><p></p><p>4e has always been the "lets pick what we like to add to 3.5" and has never really interested me as a system on its own. Dont get me wrong, I love what they did to simplify the running of a game for the DM and the improved encounter system with minions has had me try and emulate this into 3.5/PF on many occasions. But in achieving this ruleset, 4e has made characters simplistic and virtual cookie cutters of each other that when we play it players dont get so excited over leveling like they do in 3.5.</p><p></p><p>But the Biggest issue with 4e is the cost of starting over. 4e should never have been called 4e. since AD&D the rules have slowly progressed to a degree that they remain at least convertable from one to the next. 4e is not a new edition but an entirely new game with the D&D logo. I refer to it as D&D evolved or when im feeling particularly anti 4e Kindergarten Dungeons & Dragons (KD&D for short) <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devil.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":devil:" title="Devil :devil:" data-shortname=":devil:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Quijenoth, post: 4890242, member: 20025"] For Me Pathfinder will become my new Core Ruleset. Pathfinder has addressed alot of issues with the new rules that has plagued my groups for years now and while some houserules will surface Pathfinder still allows me to use the huge collection of d20 material I have purchased over the past 5+ years with little or no alterations necessary. 4e has always been the "lets pick what we like to add to 3.5" and has never really interested me as a system on its own. Dont get me wrong, I love what they did to simplify the running of a game for the DM and the improved encounter system with minions has had me try and emulate this into 3.5/PF on many occasions. But in achieving this ruleset, 4e has made characters simplistic and virtual cookie cutters of each other that when we play it players dont get so excited over leveling like they do in 3.5. But the Biggest issue with 4e is the cost of starting over. 4e should never have been called 4e. since AD&D the rules have slowly progressed to a degree that they remain at least convertable from one to the next. 4e is not a new edition but an entirely new game with the D&D logo. I refer to it as D&D evolved or when im feeling particularly anti 4e Kindergarten Dungeons & Dragons (KD&D for short) :) ;) :devil: [/QUOTE]
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