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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Voadam" data-source="post: 5276642" data-attributes="member: 2209">Two more comparisons from the charts, 1st level and 20th level4e 1st level monsterhp 16+con, AC 15, saves 13(+3), Attack +6, save attack +3(DC 13), damage d10+3 and 2d10+3 for limted attacks.PF CR 1hp 15, AC 12, saves +4, +1, attack +2 or +1, save attack DC 12 or 9, damage 7 or 9.4e 20th level monster:168 +con, AC 34, saves 32(+22), Attack +25, Save attack +23(DC 33), damage has to be looked up.PF 20 CRhp 370, AC 36, saves +22 or +17, attack +30 or +23, Save attack DC 27 or 20, damage 120 or 90.So at low levels 4e monsters have more hp and do more damage but PF pass them up on both before CR 10. There is a little difference in saves with 4e being more offensive, but AC and saves and attacks are pretty close.</blockquote>