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<blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 7638778" data-attributes="member: 7635">So you didn't like 5e because a bunch of min-maxers discovered the absolute best DPS builds and then were upset they couldn't stack even more bonuses on top?Honestly, the reason I love 5e over Pathfinder was that the PF rules encouraged perfect-build characters with obscure feats, traits, archetypes and magic items that played several levels over their true level, and then Paizo would respond by making later Bestiary monsters and modules hyper-lethal to respond to them, creating an arms race to the point that most of the non-caster's in the Core Rulebook were wasted ink and the original Bestiary was a joke as far as challenge rating. You haven't lived until you see a gunslinger, cleric, paladin, and summoner one-shot a red dragon 8 CR higher than the party is facing. So I hope PF2e fixes your concerns with the game. 5e isn't perfect, but I know my players have stopped being concerned with builds and optimization since playing it and they are trying ideas that are fun rather than built to squeeze every last +1 out of the game.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Remathilis, post: 7638778, member: 7635"] So you didn't like 5e because a bunch of min-maxers discovered the absolute best DPS builds and then were upset they couldn't stack even more bonuses on top? Honestly, the reason I love 5e over Pathfinder was that the PF rules encouraged perfect-build characters with obscure feats, traits, archetypes and magic items that played several levels over their true level, and then Paizo would respond by making later Bestiary monsters and modules hyper-lethal to respond to them, creating an arms race to the point that most of the non-caster's in the Core Rulebook were wasted ink and the original Bestiary was a joke as far as challenge rating. You haven't lived until you see a gunslinger, cleric, paladin, and summoner one-shot a red dragon 8 CR higher than the party is facing. So I hope PF2e fixes your concerns with the game. 5e isn't perfect, but I know my players have stopped being concerned with builds and optimization since playing it and they are trying ideas that are fun rather than built to squeeze every last +1 out of the game. [/QUOTE]

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