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<blockquote data-quote="zztong" data-source="post: 7639493" data-attributes="member: 6943414"><p>In PF1, a +5 two-handed weapon would do something like 1d12+5.</p><p>In PF2, a +5 two-handed weapon would do something like 5d12.</p><p></p><p>A PF2, the differences in damage based on the die-size of the weapon separate significantly as the magical bonus advances. This lets magic weapons keep up with spell damage, but it also exaggerates the differences in the weapons themselves.</p><p></p><p>So, would you take a shield and a +5 d8 one-handed weapon or a +5 d12 weapon? You average 2 points more damage per die, so +10 average damage and a much higher potential peak damage. The trade off was that you are 10% more likely to get hit, and perhaps suffer a critical hit. We were seeing folks ditch the shield, specially if they weren't trying to frequently tank.</p><p></p><p>IIRC, you could not get a magic shield. You needed a class, I think Paladin, to take feats to improve their AC bonus from a shield. That's from memory so I might have be off in some way.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="zztong, post: 7639493, member: 6943414"] In PF1, a +5 two-handed weapon would do something like 1d12+5. In PF2, a +5 two-handed weapon would do something like 5d12. A PF2, the differences in damage based on the die-size of the weapon separate significantly as the magical bonus advances. This lets magic weapons keep up with spell damage, but it also exaggerates the differences in the weapons themselves. So, would you take a shield and a +5 d8 one-handed weapon or a +5 d12 weapon? You average 2 points more damage per die, so +10 average damage and a much higher potential peak damage. The trade off was that you are 10% more likely to get hit, and perhaps suffer a critical hit. We were seeing folks ditch the shield, specially if they weren't trying to frequently tank. IIRC, you could not get a magic shield. You needed a class, I think Paladin, to take feats to improve their AC bonus from a shield. That's from memory so I might have be off in some way. [/QUOTE]
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