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<blockquote data-quote="JesterOC" data-source="post: 7641796" data-attributes="member: 42841"><p>After reading discussions that speculated that a two handed weapon user vs a sword and board user.</p><p>I wrote a little program to try to see what the results would be.</p><p></p><p></p><p>UPDATE: Had to add code to only use a shield block once per turn.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I assumed fighters both had these statistics</p><p>+9 to hit</p><p>AC 18 with armor</p><p>HP 21</p><p>18 strength</p><p></p><p></p><p>The great sword user</p><p>1d12+4 damage</p><p></p><p></p><p>Sword and Board</p><p>1d8+4</p><p>Steel shield 5 hardness 20 hp</p><p></p><p></p><p>I used two strategies for the shield user</p><p>Always use the shield and try to preserve the shield unless you might die (assumes that we don't know the total damage until after the shield block was in place)</p><p></p><p></p><p>Results were interesting</p><p>On average the sword and boarder won about 58 percent of the time if the shield was trying to preserve the shield, and they won about 60% of the time when all used the shield every time they could.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The shield info</p><p>when trying to preserve</p><p>rendered unusable in a fight about 30% of the time </p><p>2.5% were destroyed in a fight</p><p></p><p></p><p>when using all the time</p><p>rendered unusable in a fight about 42% of the time </p><p>5% were destroyed in a fight</p><p></p><p></p><p>When I adjusted to 4th level</p><p>with +12 to hit</p><p>60 HP</p><p>and 21 AC</p><p>preserve shield became 55% win for sword and board</p><p>but use always it dropped to 50% for the sword and boarder and the shields were broken 89% of the time</p><p></p><p></p><p>If I gave them both +1 striking weapons at that level it goes to about 50/50 in preserve mode, and 55/45 in the two hander's favor if they went to always mode.</p><p></p><p></p><p>But if I give the sword a boarder a sturdy shield it jumps back to 58% to 42% favoring the sword and boarder. In preserve, and 59% / 41% shield user to two handed in use always.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Anyway there could be (more) things I am missing but it currently looks pretty good for the sword and boarder, but I am not taking into account feats now weapon properties.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JesterOC, post: 7641796, member: 42841"] After reading discussions that speculated that a two handed weapon user vs a sword and board user. I wrote a little program to try to see what the results would be. UPDATE: Had to add code to only use a shield block once per turn. I assumed fighters both had these statistics +9 to hit AC 18 with armor HP 21 18 strength The great sword user 1d12+4 damage Sword and Board 1d8+4 Steel shield 5 hardness 20 hp I used two strategies for the shield user Always use the shield and try to preserve the shield unless you might die (assumes that we don't know the total damage until after the shield block was in place) Results were interesting On average the sword and boarder won about 58 percent of the time if the shield was trying to preserve the shield, and they won about 60% of the time when all used the shield every time they could. The shield info when trying to preserve rendered unusable in a fight about 30% of the time 2.5% were destroyed in a fight when using all the time rendered unusable in a fight about 42% of the time 5% were destroyed in a fight When I adjusted to 4th level with +12 to hit 60 HP and 21 AC preserve shield became 55% win for sword and board but use always it dropped to 50% for the sword and boarder and the shields were broken 89% of the time If I gave them both +1 striking weapons at that level it goes to about 50/50 in preserve mode, and 55/45 in the two hander's favor if they went to always mode. But if I give the sword a boarder a sturdy shield it jumps back to 58% to 42% favoring the sword and boarder. In preserve, and 59% / 41% shield user to two handed in use always. Anyway there could be (more) things I am missing but it currently looks pretty good for the sword and boarder, but I am not taking into account feats now weapon properties. [/QUOTE]
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