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<blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 7642724" data-attributes="member: 158">For our group, the biggest problem for us in PF2 is something that we know will be in there thanks to the playtest - the continuing problem of spiraling numbers bloat. Thankfully, characters wont be as far apart as in PF1, but there's still that problem that what starts out as +5 and +7s here and there, become +25 and +35 by the high teens of levels. even though the numbers are more consistent, it's still really annoying to deal with the number bloat. We've been playing some 5e for the past year, and the group really seems to like it, and our plan is to keep playing 5e at least until the Gamemastery Guide comes out, with the expectation that there may be discussion of reducing or eliminating the proficiency bonus altogether, and what other considerations need to be made in the system if one eliminates it. if would be a pretty big change.If not, then PF2 may well not suit us. We'll have to wait and see.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Henry, post: 7642724, member: 158"] For our group, the biggest problem for us in PF2 is something that we know will be in there thanks to the playtest - the continuing problem of spiraling numbers bloat. Thankfully, characters wont be as far apart as in PF1, but there's still that problem that what starts out as +5 and +7s here and there, become +25 and +35 by the high teens of levels. even though the numbers are more consistent, it's still really annoying to deal with the number bloat. We've been playing some 5e for the past year, and the group really seems to like it, and our plan is to keep playing 5e at least until the Gamemastery Guide comes out, with the expectation that there may be discussion of reducing or eliminating the proficiency bonus altogether, and what other considerations need to be made in the system if one eliminates it. if would be a pretty big change. If not, then PF2 may well not suit us. We'll have to wait and see. [/QUOTE]

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