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<blockquote data-quote="Khairn" data-source="post: 4848106" data-attributes="member: 20153"><p>That's funny, I always thought that 4E's main selling point was the fact that its not 3.5? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> I do believe that published settings are certainly a big enough deal to WotC. Big enough that they would rather ret-con older settings than create new ones for 4E. Which I personally believe is a mistake on their part.</p><p></p><p>Dire Bare (above) said that WotC isn't tying its rules to a setting as they don't want to overwhelm new players, and for the most part I agree with him. WotC is also looking for 4E to be used for multiple settings, so tying it to none supports that concept as well. </p><p></p><p>Paizo seems to be going at this from another angle. They've built their reputation on numerous creative and successful AP's. Paizo has taken that experience and used it to create Golarion and a shared RP experience for its customers. This approach also helps to create a stronger community IMHO. </p><p></p><p>For the most part, WotC appears to be selling a game mechanic, with a different interchangeable setting each year. While Paizo is selling not just a revised OGL system, but the entire gaming experience with numerous AP's, modules, setting supplements and props (Harrow Deck) that are all tied into an exciting new setting. Golarion is also generating a lot of fan support (Wayfinder magazine from Paizo-Con).</p><p></p><p>For those players who prefer homebrewed settings, Golarion is not much of a selling point. But for the many gamers who want to minimize their prep time (one of the design goals of 4E) having a large amount of high quality setting material to chose from is a benefit. I know it is for me. </p><p></p><p>On a separate note I am surprised at the number of 4E fans who say they are using Golarion as their setting of choice. I think that says a lot about the quality of Paizo's setting material.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Khairn, post: 4848106, member: 20153"] That's funny, I always thought that 4E's main selling point was the fact that its not 3.5? :p I do believe that published settings are certainly a big enough deal to WotC. Big enough that they would rather ret-con older settings than create new ones for 4E. Which I personally believe is a mistake on their part. Dire Bare (above) said that WotC isn't tying its rules to a setting as they don't want to overwhelm new players, and for the most part I agree with him. WotC is also looking for 4E to be used for multiple settings, so tying it to none supports that concept as well. Paizo seems to be going at this from another angle. They've built their reputation on numerous creative and successful AP's. Paizo has taken that experience and used it to create Golarion and a shared RP experience for its customers. This approach also helps to create a stronger community IMHO. For the most part, WotC appears to be selling a game mechanic, with a different interchangeable setting each year. While Paizo is selling not just a revised OGL system, but the entire gaming experience with numerous AP's, modules, setting supplements and props (Harrow Deck) that are all tied into an exciting new setting. Golarion is also generating a lot of fan support (Wayfinder magazine from Paizo-Con). For those players who prefer homebrewed settings, Golarion is not much of a selling point. But for the many gamers who want to minimize their prep time (one of the design goals of 4E) having a large amount of high quality setting material to chose from is a benefit. I know it is for me. On a separate note I am surprised at the number of 4E fans who say they are using Golarion as their setting of choice. I think that says a lot about the quality of Paizo's setting material. [/QUOTE]
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