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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 4845487" data-attributes="member: 7635">I think that's the artifact of the basic premise of 3e bards; weak spellcaster + weak fighter + weak skill user + buff-monkey != solid class design. Bards should've looked more like late-era spontaneous casters (warmage, beguiler) and been a full caster with some tricks added to account for a otherwise small list of spells (charms, buffs, status-effects) or gone 4e style and make a bard a cleric's equal (healing, buffing) but with a greater emphasis on misdirection and guile and less on holy-butt kicking.Any attempt to "fix" the 3e bard is going to fail; best is for someone to scrap it and start again.</blockquote>