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<blockquote data-quote="eyebeams" data-source="post: 4882820" data-attributes="member: 9225">Thanks for the responses so far. It is tricky trying to shoehorn this into Pathfinder but I've met enough people who want something like this that I think it fits. WRT powers that the DM manages, that's not bad, as long as the DM doesn't have to remember them/the player doesn't have to bring them up. Yes, it may seem I'm aiming for a truly idiot-proof character who can still bring the ruckus at high levels.Skills are tricky. I'm thinking of a standard roster of &quot;adventuring&quot; skills -- more than the fighter.And &quot;Fighting Man,&quot; while sounding retro, unfortunately collides with the gender of some of the people who have enjoyed this idea in my group<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :-)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" />. But Champion sounds a little dorky, I admit. Unfortunately, Warrior is taken -- what can I do?So how about:* d12 HD* Proficient in all weapons -- exotic, too* Proficient in all armor* Saves as a monk* +1/level BAB (naturally)* +1 to base AC, BAB and saving throws at level 1, +1 per 4 levels starting at 4(8/12/16/20)* +2 to weapon damage at level 1, then 4/8/12/16/20* Skill points 4 + Int Mod* Class skills: Acrobatics, Climb, Craft, Intimidate, Knowledge (Dungeoneering), Profession, Ride, Stealth, Survival, SwimSo, still too weak?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="eyebeams, post: 4882820, member: 9225"] Thanks for the responses so far. It is tricky trying to shoehorn this into Pathfinder but I've met enough people who want something like this that I think it fits. WRT powers that the DM manages, that's not bad, as long as the DM doesn't have to remember them/the player doesn't have to bring them up. Yes, it may seem I'm aiming for a truly idiot-proof character who can still bring the ruckus at high levels. Skills are tricky. I'm thinking of a standard roster of "adventuring" skills -- more than the fighter. And "Fighting Man," while sounding retro, unfortunately collides with the gender of some of the people who have enjoyed this idea in my group:-). But Champion sounds a little dorky, I admit. Unfortunately, Warrior is taken -- what can I do? So how about: * d12 HD * Proficient in all weapons -- exotic, too * Proficient in all armor * Saves as a monk * +1/level BAB (naturally) * +1 to base AC, BAB and saving throws at level 1, +1 per 4 levels starting at 4(8/12/16/20) * +2 to weapon damage at level 1, then 4/8/12/16/20 * Skill points 4 + Int Mod * Class skills: Acrobatics, Climb, Craft, Intimidate, Knowledge (Dungeoneering), Profession, Ride, Stealth, Survival, Swim So, still too weak? [/QUOTE]

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