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<blockquote data-quote="DarkKestral" data-source="post: 4427465" data-attributes="member: 40100"><p>Khaalis, I'm not so sure that analogy works.</p><p></p><p>I'd say it's more like OGL: LGPL :: GSL: Windows license.</p><p></p><p>The GPL I'm referring to is the Lesser GNU Public License, just so ya know.</p><p></p><p>Because in my mind, the thing that strikes me as being critical to the analogy is the spawning of new systems. The OGL is open in that you can create your own, new systems under it. So your simple comparison doesn't quite work, if only because Windows itself is NOT open, at least in those terms. Windows, too, is a proprietary, closed system where only one company knows what every bit of the core software is supposed to do, just like MacOS. Both let you develop in their sandbox, but you're not supposed to be able to tweak and modify system internals or duplicate anything the company wants not duplicated. OGL material lets you duplicate without fear of reprisal, and not only that, but let you modify and tweak it to your heart's desire, as long as you follow some basic rules that basically come down to "don't be a jerk, and if you do something jerkish, such as claiming that this stuff is yours, even if it isn't, or telling people they can't do stuff with this that we're explicitly saying is allowed, and you know you're being a jerk, and you don't fix the situation soon enough, you're not allowed to use this stuff anymore, jerkface." (yeah, yeah, it's got some additional legal mumbo-jumbo in it, but I think this is the essential nature of the license.) Also, in many respects, it's somewhat similar to the LGPL in regards to distribution: If you're not initial the copyright owner, and you distribute the content or material you made using the content as defined by the license, you have to put the license with the content you used to let the people who see YOUR material know that they can use the material under the OGL as well, but that you can use it with non-OGL material, as long as the non-OGL content's under the protected classes of stuff.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DarkKestral, post: 4427465, member: 40100"] Khaalis, I'm not so sure that analogy works. I'd say it's more like OGL: LGPL :: GSL: Windows license. The GPL I'm referring to is the Lesser GNU Public License, just so ya know. Because in my mind, the thing that strikes me as being critical to the analogy is the spawning of new systems. The OGL is open in that you can create your own, new systems under it. So your simple comparison doesn't quite work, if only because Windows itself is NOT open, at least in those terms. Windows, too, is a proprietary, closed system where only one company knows what every bit of the core software is supposed to do, just like MacOS. Both let you develop in their sandbox, but you're not supposed to be able to tweak and modify system internals or duplicate anything the company wants not duplicated. OGL material lets you duplicate without fear of reprisal, and not only that, but let you modify and tweak it to your heart's desire, as long as you follow some basic rules that basically come down to "don't be a jerk, and if you do something jerkish, such as claiming that this stuff is yours, even if it isn't, or telling people they can't do stuff with this that we're explicitly saying is allowed, and you know you're being a jerk, and you don't fix the situation soon enough, you're not allowed to use this stuff anymore, jerkface." (yeah, yeah, it's got some additional legal mumbo-jumbo in it, but I think this is the essential nature of the license.) Also, in many respects, it's somewhat similar to the LGPL in regards to distribution: If you're not initial the copyright owner, and you distribute the content or material you made using the content as defined by the license, you have to put the license with the content you used to let the people who see YOUR material know that they can use the material under the OGL as well, but that you can use it with non-OGL material, as long as the non-OGL content's under the protected classes of stuff. [/QUOTE]
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