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<blockquote data-quote="Feeroper" data-source="post: 9006057" data-attributes="member: 83317"><p>I agree fully with this - Paizo likes to put on the "<em>we're like you!</em>" customer service face, but they are obviously a business too, and not too dissimilar to WotC. I really like PF (both 1e and 2e) but this was a pretty tone deaf play. I get the divesting from OGL stuff, but the presentation uses very tricky wording - I think the fact that they will not update old 2e Core Rulebook PDFs says a lot - a true customer service route would be to give current (digital) customers a free PDF of the Player Core and GM Core, since it is apparently just reshuffled presentation and "minor" adjustments, or alternatively, continue to update relevant rules in the old core rulebook PDF since it "isn't obselete" - what happens in a year or two after the release of the new Core books and there is even more errata? Those old core rulebooks will seem much further outdated by then if they will no longer update the PDFs (as they do with all of their digital products in their supported lifetime). I don't think AoN is a viable excuse for everyone. It is clear this is a stealth and low key shifting of the edition, just removing alignment alone is a pretty big change that I think is hard for them to talk around (which is evident in their descriptions of the solution for it). In my personal opinion, this is an ill-timed PR blunder given the recent renewed interest in Pathfinder. I get it though, at the end of the day they are a business and this is an opportunity to not only get away from the OGL, but to move some more units with more player interest. I wish they would just be more transparent about it, no need for the façade (imo) - I think the cryptic answer about Starfinder ("not yet") shows that they are indeed rather shrewd with their business. </p><p></p><p>Don't get me wrong, I do like Paizo and believe they have a very passionate staff their that does care about their game and the hobby, but we have to also remember they are a business - they aren't our personal friends doing us a favor, its a business decision. There is nothing wrong with that, I just prefer more transparency in the communication.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Feeroper, post: 9006057, member: 83317"] I agree fully with this - Paizo likes to put on the "[I]we're like you![/I]" customer service face, but they are obviously a business too, and not too dissimilar to WotC. I really like PF (both 1e and 2e) but this was a pretty tone deaf play. I get the divesting from OGL stuff, but the presentation uses very tricky wording - I think the fact that they will not update old 2e Core Rulebook PDFs says a lot - a true customer service route would be to give current (digital) customers a free PDF of the Player Core and GM Core, since it is apparently just reshuffled presentation and "minor" adjustments, or alternatively, continue to update relevant rules in the old core rulebook PDF since it "isn't obselete" - what happens in a year or two after the release of the new Core books and there is even more errata? Those old core rulebooks will seem much further outdated by then if they will no longer update the PDFs (as they do with all of their digital products in their supported lifetime). I don't think AoN is a viable excuse for everyone. It is clear this is a stealth and low key shifting of the edition, just removing alignment alone is a pretty big change that I think is hard for them to talk around (which is evident in their descriptions of the solution for it). In my personal opinion, this is an ill-timed PR blunder given the recent renewed interest in Pathfinder. I get it though, at the end of the day they are a business and this is an opportunity to not only get away from the OGL, but to move some more units with more player interest. I wish they would just be more transparent about it, no need for the façade (imo) - I think the cryptic answer about Starfinder ("not yet") shows that they are indeed rather shrewd with their business. Don't get me wrong, I do like Paizo and believe they have a very passionate staff their that does care about their game and the hobby, but we have to also remember they are a business - they aren't our personal friends doing us a favor, its a business decision. There is nothing wrong with that, I just prefer more transparency in the communication. [/QUOTE]
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