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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Stormonu" data-source="post: 6115437" data-attributes="member: 52734">At low levels (about 1-3), it's fairly easy to get along without a cleric.  As you get higher and the damage starts to pile up, it can get frustrating for players who don't have a cleric in their group if natural healing and/or access to magical healing isn't somehow adjusted.  My experience has been that after about 6th level, without some sort of magical healing or scaling natural healing, the game becomes more frustrating than fun.I've always hated that the healing skill never actually restored hp, or a pittance at best.  And no party enjoys watching gobs of money being expended in a vicious cycle of acquiring magical goods to heal ("We go on adventures for money.  During those adventures, we get hurt.  We have to spend the money we earned to heal the damage we took.  Then we have to go adventuring to pay for more healing ...")If you make the cleric-less party rely on natural healing, I've found you're more likely to see 5MWD, as after one or two scapes at most, the party is reluctant - if not rightly fearful - of going further for fear of getting killed.The big problem is making any changes in a way that it does not invalidate nor boost the cleric should the party composition or campaign change.Personally, in my campaign I've made healing potions quite common (and often non-magical in nature - sold by "wise women" and "country doctors" more often than available by churches) and relatively cheap.  I've also bumped natural healing equal to HD * Level per day (allowing a number of dice to be rerolled equal to Con mod).  Finally, I've also allowed the Heal skill to heal 1d4 + 1d4/4 pts past DC 15 once per person per day.  Conversely, I've also banned Divine wands of any sort as well as scrolls of healing.  It's worked for my games, but I don't usually play past 9th level.</blockquote>

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