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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Wik" data-source="post: 5949301" data-attributes="member: 40177">Or, another idea that occured to me:  Spelltheft is simply a standard action, which you can do within 30 feet.  If you catch the guy flatfooted (or flank him), you get a +2 on the attempt.  When you steal a spell, you sacrifice one of your spell slots to gain a spell from your enemy.  You make an opposed caster level check against his caster level check, with a bonus to your check equal to the level of the spell you sacrificed, while he gets a bonus equal to the level of the spell slot you're trying to steal.If you succeed, you steal the spell (and maybe get to hit the caster with a negative effect as part of the action?).  If you fail, well, too bad.You get a full 9 levels of spells, but your spell list is limited (I'd say non-combat, roguey-type spells?).  However, many of your spell slots can't actually be used to cast spells - instead, they can only be used to sacrifice for spell theft.Also, you can steal spell-like abilities using the same method.  ***In addition to this, you'd have a d8 for hit points, 6 skill points, rogue trapfinding, and a few other minor abilities to round out the class - possibly around making magic items work and misfire in strange ways.  I like the idea because it gives the character something to do when he can't steal spells (he can cast them himself!), but it doesn't turn a spellthief who is unable to cast spells into a weaker version of the rogue or wizard.</blockquote>

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