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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Orcus" data-source="post: 426818" data-attributes="member: 1254">Nikchick-You are right. It is hard to compare Crucible--which made a big name for iteself with distributors and retailers prior to the glut, much like your Freeport--with later products.The problem is, that continues to be true. The market keeps changing and it hasnt been in existence that long so I just dont feel I have any stable, reliable market data available to help me price products.I did recently up prices about a dollar to get them in line with other SSS products, but I still think our stuff is reasonably priced. Numbers are a bit lower. Is that because of the higher price or because of a dip in d20 overall? If I had charged $1 less would I have sold more? Its hard to say right now.Plus, then there is the whole issue of returns. You sales to distributors might be great, but 6 months from now you see big returns of unsold product. It is really hard to peg the market right now. And I even have a bit of an advantage since I can compare my stuff to other SSS stuff, so I dont have to just rely on sales data for my own products. And I still have a hard time predicting this stuff. I would really appreciate comments from Nik and John and others who have been running their companies for some time on rules of thumb you guys use to set prices. Clark</blockquote>