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<blockquote data-quote="Cergorach" data-source="post: 427951" data-attributes="member: 725"><p>I know that, you know that, i might even get the customer to listen to that, but the bottom line is still the comparison between FRCS vs. TBoR. When the customer compares prices for products (as they always do) they'll say that the FRCS is greater value, because it's in color and has a nice color map (and it's made by those D&D people ;-). Comparing smaller books vs. a larger book doesn't make sense, because if that was true, people wouldn't buy the small books.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes and no, FRCS is a campaign setting, true, and only interesting to people who are willing to start a campaign there. You would be suprised how many 'new' <em>players</em> are atracted to FR due to it's huge background and pretty pictures. TBoR is only usefull for DMs and only those DMs that don't yet have a pantheon for their world, do not plan to make their own, and are willing to use TBoR. Again the botom line is that TBoR will sell a lot less than FRCS because FRCS is aimed at players as well as DMS and TBoR is primarily aimed at DMs (although some players might be interested in reading a bit about the god they follow, but at $40 it's not great utility for a player).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Is it? Deities and Demigods is more than a listing of a few Gods, it's a rule system for 'creating' Gods. Often these days a lot of people are really interested in the crunchy bits and Deities and Demigods delivers them those crunchy bits. TBoR is as much a 'published' setting as any other campaign setting. If people want a 'hot-plugable' pantheon for their setting, i give them a couple of choices:</p><p>- Deities and Demigods (D&D) [224 pages, color, hardcover, $29.95]</p><p>- Faiths and Pantheons (FRCS) [224 pages, color, hardcover, $32.95]</p><p>- The Divine and the Deveated (SSS) [232 pages, b&w, hardcover, $26.95]</p><p>- Gods (AEG) [160 pages, b&w, softcover, $24.95]</p><p>- The Book of the Righteous (GRP) [320 pages, b&w, hardcover, $39.95]</p><p>Compared to the other God books, TBoR does pretty reasonable (the AEG book not taken into account), but if people want their books in full color they'l probably go with either of the WotC books, even the SSS book gives more pages for the buck. I think it all comes down to what people are looking for...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ok, this is going to sound harsh, but that's the world for you. My customers aren't going to care that you and your family are living in poverty, they want the best bang for their buck. Same goes for a lot of retailers, they don't know you, they don't care.</p><p></p><p>Now, i'm not contesting the quality of your products, far from it (high, high quality its is), but what i am trying to make clear that the market isn't "We will make it, we will price it, and they will come.". By making 'expensive' products you are only taking a niche in a niche market.</p><p></p><p>I'm not your average gamer, i buy a LOT and don't mind paying reasonable extra for added value, but i'm the exception rather than the rule.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cergorach, post: 427951, member: 725"] I know that, you know that, i might even get the customer to listen to that, but the bottom line is still the comparison between FRCS vs. TBoR. When the customer compares prices for products (as they always do) they'll say that the FRCS is greater value, because it's in color and has a nice color map (and it's made by those D&D people ;-). Comparing smaller books vs. a larger book doesn't make sense, because if that was true, people wouldn't buy the small books. Yes and no, FRCS is a campaign setting, true, and only interesting to people who are willing to start a campaign there. You would be suprised how many 'new' [i]players[/i] are atracted to FR due to it's huge background and pretty pictures. TBoR is only usefull for DMs and only those DMs that don't yet have a pantheon for their world, do not plan to make their own, and are willing to use TBoR. Again the botom line is that TBoR will sell a lot less than FRCS because FRCS is aimed at players as well as DMS and TBoR is primarily aimed at DMs (although some players might be interested in reading a bit about the god they follow, but at $40 it's not great utility for a player). Is it? Deities and Demigods is more than a listing of a few Gods, it's a rule system for 'creating' Gods. Often these days a lot of people are really interested in the crunchy bits and Deities and Demigods delivers them those crunchy bits. TBoR is as much a 'published' setting as any other campaign setting. If people want a 'hot-plugable' pantheon for their setting, i give them a couple of choices: - Deities and Demigods (D&D) [224 pages, color, hardcover, $29.95] - Faiths and Pantheons (FRCS) [224 pages, color, hardcover, $32.95] - The Divine and the Deveated (SSS) [232 pages, b&w, hardcover, $26.95] - Gods (AEG) [160 pages, b&w, softcover, $24.95] - The Book of the Righteous (GRP) [320 pages, b&w, hardcover, $39.95] Compared to the other God books, TBoR does pretty reasonable (the AEG book not taken into account), but if people want their books in full color they'l probably go with either of the WotC books, even the SSS book gives more pages for the buck. I think it all comes down to what people are looking for... Ok, this is going to sound harsh, but that's the world for you. My customers aren't going to care that you and your family are living in poverty, they want the best bang for their buck. Same goes for a lot of retailers, they don't know you, they don't care. Now, i'm not contesting the quality of your products, far from it (high, high quality its is), but what i am trying to make clear that the market isn't "We will make it, we will price it, and they will come.". By making 'expensive' products you are only taking a niche in a niche market. I'm not your average gamer, i buy a LOT and don't mind paying reasonable extra for added value, but i'm the exception rather than the rule. [/QUOTE]
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