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<blockquote data-quote="AaronLoeb" data-source="post: 429679" data-attributes="member: 4382"><p>I'm not meaning to be combatative, so please forgive me if I come across that way, but do you really believe that? WotC releases products intended for a core all the time -- for instance the FRCS. Clearly, they didn't think that every gamer in gamertown would want a copy, so they made it the best, most elaborate product they could for their core -- and priced it at $40. This was our strategy exactly: make the best product you possibly can for the people you know will want it, and hope others will buy in as well.</p><p></p><p>This happens in the d20 market all the time. Every Scarred Land or Kalamar-specific book (adventures, specific setting guides) is aimed at a core: the people who like and play in those settings. And they pick up secondary market buyers because of their quality. Mongoose clearly does not expect that Slaine will appeal to every gamer on earth, and so they made the best darn Slaine book they could for Slaine lovers, and priced it accordingly. People make products for core audiences in our industry and release them successfully on a monthly basis.</p><p></p><p>And while you feel that the pricing of BotR will keep it out of secondary markets, there is no evidence of this. In fact, all evidence is to the contrary, with it selling better than projected. That's because most consumers look at word of mouth, recommendations of friends and reviews over price unless the price is prohibitive for where the market is; there is no reason to believe that BotR's price is prohibitive for where the market is.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Obviously, there's a contradiction here. You feel that it is both covering the same subject in the same detail AND that it is unique on the market. I think the disappointment for me is that we've somehow failed to get our message out to you: that BotR is very, very different from the other god books on the market and that it fills a niche that all of them have left ignored. If you want a book on playing gods, ascending to godhead, or fighting gods, Deities and Demigods is a million times a better book for you. If you want a book about churches and mythology and cosmology that is not based on realworld myth and can be put into any campaign setting, no one supplies that like BotR. It sounds to me -- and again, I'm just saying it sounds to me, and I'm really not trying to be rude -- that you're making up your customers' minds for them: "Well, with a little bit of work you can do that with the material in Deities and Demigods, so why would you want BotR in the first place? These books are identical, but this one's cheaper, so buy the cheaper one." BotR provide exhaustive detail about churches that no one else provides. Detail that has been in development, some of it, for over a decade. I wish we had somehow gotten this message out to you, because I can't understand how you can look through its pages and think it's the same as the other god books, only less colorful and more expensive.</p><p></p><p>But maybe I'm a little too close to the subject and I've got a big old blind spot. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> Wouldn't be the first time!</p><p></p><p>Anyway, thanks for your time and for discussing this matter, Cerg. I'm sorry your customers won't have an opportunity to see my book. I wish you the best with your business.</p><p></p><p>Aaron</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AaronLoeb, post: 429679, member: 4382"] I'm not meaning to be combatative, so please forgive me if I come across that way, but do you really believe that? WotC releases products intended for a core all the time -- for instance the FRCS. Clearly, they didn't think that every gamer in gamertown would want a copy, so they made it the best, most elaborate product they could for their core -- and priced it at $40. This was our strategy exactly: make the best product you possibly can for the people you know will want it, and hope others will buy in as well. This happens in the d20 market all the time. Every Scarred Land or Kalamar-specific book (adventures, specific setting guides) is aimed at a core: the people who like and play in those settings. And they pick up secondary market buyers because of their quality. Mongoose clearly does not expect that Slaine will appeal to every gamer on earth, and so they made the best darn Slaine book they could for Slaine lovers, and priced it accordingly. People make products for core audiences in our industry and release them successfully on a monthly basis. And while you feel that the pricing of BotR will keep it out of secondary markets, there is no evidence of this. In fact, all evidence is to the contrary, with it selling better than projected. That's because most consumers look at word of mouth, recommendations of friends and reviews over price unless the price is prohibitive for where the market is; there is no reason to believe that BotR's price is prohibitive for where the market is. Obviously, there's a contradiction here. You feel that it is both covering the same subject in the same detail AND that it is unique on the market. I think the disappointment for me is that we've somehow failed to get our message out to you: that BotR is very, very different from the other god books on the market and that it fills a niche that all of them have left ignored. If you want a book on playing gods, ascending to godhead, or fighting gods, Deities and Demigods is a million times a better book for you. If you want a book about churches and mythology and cosmology that is not based on realworld myth and can be put into any campaign setting, no one supplies that like BotR. It sounds to me -- and again, I'm just saying it sounds to me, and I'm really not trying to be rude -- that you're making up your customers' minds for them: "Well, with a little bit of work you can do that with the material in Deities and Demigods, so why would you want BotR in the first place? These books are identical, but this one's cheaper, so buy the cheaper one." BotR provide exhaustive detail about churches that no one else provides. Detail that has been in development, some of it, for over a decade. I wish we had somehow gotten this message out to you, because I can't understand how you can look through its pages and think it's the same as the other god books, only less colorful and more expensive. But maybe I'm a little too close to the subject and I've got a big old blind spot. ;) Wouldn't be the first time! Anyway, thanks for your time and for discussing this matter, Cerg. I'm sorry your customers won't have an opportunity to see my book. I wish you the best with your business. Aaron [/QUOTE]
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