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<blockquote data-quote="Quasqueton" data-source="post: 1968760" data-attributes="member: 3854"><p>DMs: Do your Player do what you expect them to do in a given encounter or situation? Do they tackle obstacles as you figured they would?</p><p></p><p>It has become a matter of fact in my game that my Players will not do what I expect. I used to look at an important or complicated encounter and try to figure how the PCs will approach and solve it. I did this to make sure I was up on the relevant rules, had thoughts on what will happen, and just in general would be prepared.</p><p></p><p>But my Players *never* *ever* enter an encounter and take it on in a way that I've expected or figured. It is not that they intentionally try to derail my expectations (they don't usually know my expectations), but somehow they completely surprise me.</p><p></p><p>I've thougt to myself that if I had a room with one door, one orc, and one pie, and I expected the PCs to enter the door, fight the orc, and take the pie, what would happen is:</p><p></p><p>The PCs would avoid entering the door, but would somehow attract the attention of a dozen orcs, and would miss the pie treasure completely.</p><p></p><p>By the way--- this is not a complaint or rant thread. I'm not complaining about my Players. Although it would make my DMing easier if they followed the path I expected in my head, it doesn't make me mad or anything when they do things differently.</p><p></p><p>But it is really amazing how they can take on things in an unexpected way *every time*. Not sometimes. Not occasionally. Not often. But *every time*. And their decisions do usually come logically from the information they have in game, so it isn't like they just do something weird out of the blue.</p><p></p><p>And its not like they are always doing something wrong or bad. Sometimes their way works out better for them. But sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes it isn't better or worse for them, just different from what I expected/figured. [At least twice, though, their unexpected method lead to a TPK.]</p><p></p><p>I'm just wondering if every DM sees this.</p><p></p><p>Quasqueton</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Quasqueton, post: 1968760, member: 3854"] DMs: Do your Player do what you expect them to do in a given encounter or situation? Do they tackle obstacles as you figured they would? It has become a matter of fact in my game that my Players will not do what I expect. I used to look at an important or complicated encounter and try to figure how the PCs will approach and solve it. I did this to make sure I was up on the relevant rules, had thoughts on what will happen, and just in general would be prepared. But my Players *never* *ever* enter an encounter and take it on in a way that I've expected or figured. It is not that they intentionally try to derail my expectations (they don't usually know my expectations), but somehow they completely surprise me. I've thougt to myself that if I had a room with one door, one orc, and one pie, and I expected the PCs to enter the door, fight the orc, and take the pie, what would happen is: The PCs would avoid entering the door, but would somehow attract the attention of a dozen orcs, and would miss the pie treasure completely. By the way--- this is not a complaint or rant thread. I'm not complaining about my Players. Although it would make my DMing easier if they followed the path I expected in my head, it doesn't make me mad or anything when they do things differently. But it is really amazing how they can take on things in an unexpected way *every time*. Not sometimes. Not occasionally. Not often. But *every time*. And their decisions do usually come logically from the information they have in game, so it isn't like they just do something weird out of the blue. And its not like they are always doing something wrong or bad. Sometimes their way works out better for them. But sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes it isn't better or worse for them, just different from what I expected/figured. [At least twice, though, their unexpected method lead to a TPK.] I'm just wondering if every DM sees this. Quasqueton [/QUOTE]
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