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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Technik4" data-source="post: 985047" data-attributes="member: 7211">At least ECL +1.Large size and reach are tremendous abilities. Im unsure whether the "AC -2" entry refers to the inherent -1 AC large creatures suffer, or if it is an extrapolation of the -4 Dex.One important advantage you are missing is "Type: Giant" which confers with it inherent benefits, like immunity to Charm Person, Hold Person, Sleep, etc.The +4 Str is not a slouchy ability either. I think comparing this to a Half-Ogre from Savage Species would be a good idea, since they appear to have many traits in common.I would say that a "story restriction" like a slow metabolism, or needing to eat/sleep a lot should not balance raw mechanical stats like +4 Str and +2 Con.You also might want to check out Monte Cook's recently previewed Giant race from Arcana Unearthed. It only begins at medium size but may take up to 3 racial levels, the 3rd which bestows Large Size, the others add ability bonuses.Technik</blockquote>