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<blockquote data-quote="Zaran" data-source="post: 5541515" data-attributes="member: 56710">I've had simular experiences. Ive had players all pass on magic items because it didn't fit their grand plan of magic items. They rather sell it instead of use the item to get the gold for something they want in combat.&nbsp; This is because of the &quot;wish list&quot; idea that 4e has put into their heads.&nbsp; Essentials has tried to fix this with it's rarity&nbsp; system and putting magic items in the dm kit but the mentality is still there.&nbsp; I basically told them that I do not let them shop at amazon.magi. That they do not know exactly what items out there are the best for their builds and that they should treat every item as something truly magical.&nbsp;&nbsp; If I give them a lair item I would not have it use up a treasure parcel (at least not an item parcel). And if they try to sell it I will be really upset with them.&nbsp; I spend time picking out stuff to make the game interesting for not only them but for myself as well. So that's my advice buried in those gripes: don't let the lair items you hand out replace something that the game requires for their characters and accenuate that stuff you give out isn't just a pile of residium.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Zaran, post: 5541515, member: 56710"] I've had simular experiences. Ive had players all pass on magic items because it didn't fit their grand plan of magic items. They rather sell it instead of use the item to get the gold for something they want in combat. This is because of the "wish list" idea that 4e has put into their heads. Essentials has tried to fix this with it's rarity system and putting magic items in the dm kit but the mentality is still there. I basically told them that I do not let them shop at amazon.magi. That they do not know exactly what items out there are the best for their builds and that they should treat every item as something truly magical. If I give them a lair item I would not have it use up a treasure parcel (at least not an item parcel). And if they try to sell it I will be really upset with them. I spend time picking out stuff to make the game interesting for not only them but for myself as well. So that's my advice buried in those gripes: don't let the lair items you hand out replace something that the game requires for their characters and accenuate that stuff you give out isn't just a pile of residium. [/QUOTE]

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