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Message: <blockquote data-quote="index" data-source="post: 1651882" data-attributes="member: 21195">It's amusing what my spell checker wanted to replace Prestidigitation with...I wrote:> > (There's nothing in the Suggestion spell description that says it> > can't work on a sleeping person, so that they won't CONSCIOUSLY> > remember the suggestion. Suggestion : "Master Duelist Lord> > Other-Blackmailer has been insulting your honor. You must publicly> > challenge him to defend your honor." Especially effective if you've> > previously been using Alter Self to spread rumors.) Turanil replied:> Excellent!! I love that! Thank you.> A player who would do that in my campaign would automatically succeed> the intended result (with maybe some unexpected side effect), and> would get an important XP bonus!Perhaps the winner of the duel is injured and laid up for afew days?  Vrecknidj only mentioned arcane spellcasting asbeing outlawed, so I assume the winner of the duel could'make a donation to the church'.The Suggestion spell has guidelines for modifiers for'reasonable' suggestions.  With prior disguisedrumor-mongering, I'd allow the above to automaticallyinfluence the victim's belief, but if they made their saveeven at a -2 circumstance penalty, I might say they decidedtheir life is more important than their honor.  Regardless,with prior legwork, I'd allow such a suggestion to causeproblems for the victim whether or not the save was made.I wouldn't CONSISTENTLY allow such problems even with a madesave, though, because then why wouldn't everybody do it?As far as XP?  If an NPC were blackmailing a PC, I'd givethat PC XP for defeating the NPC even for indirect stufflike setting up a duel they couldn't win -- especially ifthe PC made arrangements to prevent the NPC's  blackmailevidence (if any) from falling into the hands of others.(BTW: When using Alter Self for disguise, ALWAYS back it upwith a non-magical disguise underneath.  So what if youdon't have the skill?  You just don't want to be identified.If the spell fails, you don't necessarily care about framingsomeone else.  Underneath an Alter Self spell, I like tohave a Hollywood-ninja-style bodysuit, and under that aworkman's outfit appropriate for the area.  Cut your hairshort, different from your usual look.  Alter Selfdispelled?  Smoke grenade, run away, run to the supplycloset, yank the door open, tear off and hide the ninjaoutfit, grab a mop bucket, spill it a little and fall downbefore the pursuit rounds the corner.  Point with fear onyour face and an open mouth.  If anyone questions you,stammer too much to say anything useful.  Don't overdo theeye-rolling.  Later on, use Prestidigitation to restore yourhair.)(Oh, and never switch directly from a publicly-useddisguise back to your true self.  Always use a brief genericdisguise in between that's not used for anything other thangetting watchers off your tail.  A great way to come up withnew disguises is to pick two people at random and combine oraverage features of the two.  I remember a game where oneplayer bragged to me about his street urchins following atroublesome NPC, and seeing him take off his disguise,revealing one of the other PCs.)--indexP.S. - It's amusing what my spell checker wanted to replacePrestidigitation with...</blockquote>

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