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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Viktyr Gehrig" data-source="post: 5768618" data-attributes="member: 9249">Out of just the core, everything but the Druid and the Barbarian are more powerful than their core-only D&D counterparts. With supplements the D&D characters pick up the advantage out of sheer mass of material.The Druid suffers from the nerf to wild shape, and the Barbarian's "flexible" rage essentially means that they get fewer rounds of rage per day, plus the limitation on Power Attack means that they can't dish out nearly as much damage. The Bardic Performance limitation functions the same way for Bards, but Bards get so many more new options that they still come out way ahead.With the exception of Human Favored Class bonuses, everything in the Advanced Player's Guide is weaker than its core counterparts. Core classes gain more power from every supplement, per usual, but Paizo is doing a better job of supporting pre-existing material in subsequent releases so that the new classes benefit from them as well.Ultimate material is generally weaker than core material, but providing more options does allow characters to become more powerful. The Ultimate books do more for the weaker classes than they do for the stronger classes.</blockquote>