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<blockquote data-quote="Herremann the Wise" data-source="post: 5007380" data-attributes="member: 11300">As others have stated, there are (normally obvious) limits to what can be achieved with both the bluff and diplomacy skill. Explain to him the absolute limit of what his skills can achieve so he knows exactly where the boundary is.If he persists in trying to achieve the impossible, make it obvious in game that the NPCs are not buying it (the PCs can work it out for themselves whether they wish to roleplay being sucked in by his tongue or not).However, if this fails then have someone important that he has duped organise a horrid revenge upon him. If you have read Jack Vance's Lyonesse, the way how most torturer's dealt with those loose with their lips, is to have the character's tongue drawn out with a pair of tongs, split down the middle with shears and then cauterized with a hot poker. This will provide a very hefty penalty to the character's communicative skills until they can convince a high level cleric to perform a regeneration upon them. Forewarn this outcome (having the procedure performed upon a relacitrant NPC if you must that the PCs hear about). Hopefully a heavy-handed approach will not be necessary. It is far better to get a PC to do something than not to do something. He needs to come up with a different schtick for his character.Best RegardsHerremann the Wise</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Herremann the Wise, post: 5007380, member: 11300"] As others have stated, there are (normally obvious) limits to what can be achieved with both the bluff and diplomacy skill. Explain to him the absolute limit of what his skills can achieve so he knows exactly where the boundary is. If he persists in trying to achieve the impossible, make it obvious in game that the NPCs are not buying it (the PCs can work it out for themselves whether they wish to roleplay being sucked in by his tongue or not). However, if this fails then have someone important that he has duped organise a horrid revenge upon him. If you have read Jack Vance's Lyonesse, the way how most torturer's dealt with those loose with their lips, is to have the character's tongue drawn out with a pair of tongs, split down the middle with shears and then cauterized with a hot poker. This will provide a very hefty penalty to the character's communicative skills until they can convince a high level cleric to perform a regeneration upon them. Forewarn this outcome (having the procedure performed upon a relacitrant NPC if you must that the PCs hear about). Hopefully a heavy-handed approach will not be necessary. It is far better to get a PC to do something than not to do something. He needs to come up with a different schtick for his character. Best Regards Herremann the Wise [/QUOTE]

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