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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arbiter of Wyrms" data-source="post: 2493974" data-attributes="member: 18021">Thanks, Arkhandus.It's nice to see that I'm not the only one using this line of reasoning.  The racial hit dice cripple spellcasting characters as effectively, but more fairly, than LA, and small size and penalties to both Str and Con ruin melee-munchkin worries.  Skill-using moggae wouldn't be bad, but clearly, they're not akashics or rogues, so I was having a hard time seeing the problem with the initial version.I do understand the need to balance power for powerful races: a first level minotaur barbarian is more powerful than a first level human barbarian, but a twentieth level human sorcerer is more powerful than a twelfth level minotaur sorcerer.With the moggae, I really did start from the PHB gnome, making additions and subtractions to suit the concept, and I happen to believe that the gnome is perfectly balanced, but with some wonky abilities:Stonecunning is cool, but not powerful. Cantrips are neat - very flavorful, but since they're chosen for you, not at all powerful.+2 Con: "Wow! I can build a tank!" -2 Str: "But that tank can't deal damage."Halflings make bettter roguesElves and humans make better wizards and bardsDwarves make better tanksI suppose that I want the moggae to seem really cool and powerful, but still be balanced against the PHB races.  The first time I read the races chapter in the 3.0 PHB, each one was "the best one."  To an extent, I still feel that way.</blockquote>

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