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<blockquote data-quote="starkad" data-source="post: 460268" data-attributes="member: 6803"><p>Ok, I will elaborate.</p><p></p><p>Outside of this situation, he and I get along fine, and enjoy each others' company. We're friendly towards one another, and it hasn't affected how we get along.</p><p></p><p>Only when it comes down to this situation do we butt heads so far.</p><p></p><p>Last night, he stated he "might" try spycraft. But not to count on him... Which to me sounded like "cater to me or I leave still".</p><p></p><p>And it's not so much that we argue over numbers on paper... I run my game a certain way. I allow PHB races and FRCS races. Nothing else. I really have issues with allowing him to play, say, a celestial.</p><p></p><p>His reasons for playing a level 1 character are simple (to him). He has no imagination. He likes to experience the character as he gets his experiences. My rebut to that was "Well what about the years before he adventured?"... And then I realized that he virtually ignores that time frame.</p><p></p><p>When I suggested he make the history up for a 15th level character, he told me it made the character 'fake' for him, because he didn't go through it himself... After I told him to feel free to take liberties. When you make a history up, how can it be fake? You've put the work into describing his past and made him a little more 'real'.</p><p></p><p>At this point, I am about ready to toss my hat in as a DM for a while. He has never run a game, admitted it, yet continued to spout off on how he thought I was being unfair, and trying to strongarm or force him to play something he didn't want. At that point I made a note to him that his idea of what he wants is so narrow, it might not fit in with my game whatsoever.</p><p></p><p>I really am beginning to think he is not a viable member of this group anymore. His opinions and restrictions detract from the overall fun of the group.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="starkad, post: 460268, member: 6803"] Ok, I will elaborate. Outside of this situation, he and I get along fine, and enjoy each others' company. We're friendly towards one another, and it hasn't affected how we get along. Only when it comes down to this situation do we butt heads so far. Last night, he stated he "might" try spycraft. But not to count on him... Which to me sounded like "cater to me or I leave still". And it's not so much that we argue over numbers on paper... I run my game a certain way. I allow PHB races and FRCS races. Nothing else. I really have issues with allowing him to play, say, a celestial. His reasons for playing a level 1 character are simple (to him). He has no imagination. He likes to experience the character as he gets his experiences. My rebut to that was "Well what about the years before he adventured?"... And then I realized that he virtually ignores that time frame. When I suggested he make the history up for a 15th level character, he told me it made the character 'fake' for him, because he didn't go through it himself... After I told him to feel free to take liberties. When you make a history up, how can it be fake? You've put the work into describing his past and made him a little more 'real'. At this point, I am about ready to toss my hat in as a DM for a while. He has never run a game, admitted it, yet continued to spout off on how he thought I was being unfair, and trying to strongarm or force him to play something he didn't want. At that point I made a note to him that his idea of what he wants is so narrow, it might not fit in with my game whatsoever. I really am beginning to think he is not a viable member of this group anymore. His opinions and restrictions detract from the overall fun of the group. [/QUOTE]
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