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<blockquote data-quote="reapersaurus" data-source="post: 31073" data-attributes="member: 1194">In retrospect, most of the problems with thief-players I encountered in 1E and 2E was stemmed from the fact that the class was NAMED &quot;thief&quot;.&quot;A Fighter is one who Fights.&quot;By extension, &quot;A Thief is one that steals.&quot;I couldn't believe the surprise and loathing a thief player exhibited when we played a one-shot adventure in 2E:I was given a character, kind of an animal-man, who had NO memory.All he woke up with was a map and some tools and a locket, I think.So the map ends up being the way to a Temple in the desert, he meets up with the party, and they're off. (but not before I had to endure the thief role-playing her stealing from my PC while he slept.)In the middle of the Temple, he finds out she has his stuff (including the map and the locket - his ONLY link to what his true personality really is) when she goes &quot;Oh - I've got the map!&quot;He went ballistic, and tried to strangle her, all the while, she's defiant like she didn't do anything wrong. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes&nbsp; &nbsp; :rolleyes:"&nbsp; data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="reapersaurus, post: 31073, member: 1194"] In retrospect, most of the problems with thief-players I encountered in 1E and 2E was stemmed from the fact that the class was NAMED "thief". "A Fighter is one who Fights." By extension, "A Thief is one that steals." I couldn't believe the surprise and loathing a thief player exhibited when we played a one-shot adventure in 2E: I was given a character, kind of an animal-man, who had NO memory. All he woke up with was a map and some tools and a locket, I think. So the map ends up being the way to a Temple in the desert, he meets up with the party, and they're off. (but not before I had to endure the thief role-playing her stealing from my PC while he slept.) In the middle of the Temple, he finds out she has his stuff (including the map and the locket - his ONLY link to what his true personality really is) when she goes "Oh - I've got the map!" He went ballistic, and tried to strangle her, all the while, she's defiant like she didn't do anything wrong. :rolleyes: [/QUOTE]

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