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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Olgar Shiverstone" data-source="post: 3744223" data-attributes="member: 5868">That's definitely how I'd see the 12 classes breaking out total -- though I'd expect the sorcerer to be much more warlock-like than the blaster wizard he is today.  The arcane defender might be some sort of abjurant champion or duskblade-like character -- he's a tank, but his tank abilities come from magical protections and self-buffs rather than armor and brute force. The warrior-mage role, if you will.I'd hate to see the ranger dropped from the first book, but there is definitely an advantage to having two classes for each power source and role.And I do think that for many character classes the roles ought not to be set in stone: the druid should be able to take a shapeshifting path that is more defender than controller; the fighter should be able to take mobility, archery, and single strike feats to perform the striker rrole.  That way you can fill roles without necessarily needing the specific classes and you open up a lot of customization opportunities.I'm hoping the ranger won't actually rely on magical abilities, but that his non-magical; woodcraft and nature skills will get him lumped in the "divine" category.  But if you make him martial, why wouldn't he just be a feat/talent offshoot of either the fighter or rogue?</blockquote>