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Message: <blockquote data-quote="meltinbradley" data-source="post: 6242610" data-attributes="member: 80012">Unwise,I guess I write really bad. I was trying to explain this situation and people took it the wrong way.We have a campaign now with 4 players. Two of those players were in my old campaign 3 years ago. That old campaign ended in failure. The PCs didnt care about the campaign and just did whatever they wanted. As a result they all either died, went mad, or were locked up. We have 2 humans, a griffon and a kobold in my current campaign. In the old campaign the Kobold PC played a vampire. The griffon was in the old campaign and was the only survivor of the old campaign. So hes playing the same griffon in the new campaign. For some reason, the griffon PC wanted to go back to the dream world because he thinks finding this wizard they left  long ago will have some weight now. Sooo, he and the rest of the party decided to rescue the vampire from his cage. (I, nor the Kobold PC who played the vampire PC from before expected this.) I took the kobold PC aside and said, "how would you like to play your vamp again? Now understand, whatever happens this is a new campaign and you will return to your kobold." He understood and even rebuilt his vampire because he lost his sheet as its been 3 years since we played with that group.Then i post my message and im this DM who makes choices for the PCs....anyway......The griffon PC said in game "now, he can do what he orginially intended to do." The vampire was not a good guy even when he was trying to play a good guy. The griffon is exalted and because the situation is dire is going against what he believes in to rescue the vampire for information and to fullfill what he intended. She will probably not allow the vampire to leave the dream world and try to stop him if things dont go the way they want to. Nothing to do with me or another PC forcing another PC to do something. I sent an email to the vamp PC yesterday and said "I didnt expect you guys to do this whole dream world thing and i didnt expect your vampire to be released into the world again. I doubt you did too. What are your plans with him?" He agreed with me and said "im going to sacrifice myself to return the mage."Well, the mage may or may not be alive. Regardless of whether the vampire dies because "im going to make decisions for the PC's", he sacrifices himself, or he surives, the vampire is leaving the game. The PC has a Kobold hes playing now. I also doubt the griffon and the other characters would even want to travel with the vampire after this is all said and done.Im saying here that if he does sacrifice himself he gets a restful death because for 5 years Ive had to hold this players hand because he has no idea of what hes doing. Look at it like this, regardless of what alignment he says his character is, he plays chaotic evil all the time even if he plays a lawful good paladin and will try to justify any action he does. Im tired of baby sitting him and giving him 1000000 chances. Im not going to do that anymore. As I said before, I am open to play with anyone and really try to work things out to get people who really want to play to play. I doubt this person would last a month in any other group. Im teaching him  tough love now, because if i continue to hold his hand he will take advantage of any situation.anyway....with all that said, he agreed without me even bringing it up that he will attempt to sacrifice his character. Whether that happens, only time will tell. Regardless of whatever happens, his playing his character for the current campaign which is a kobold when they leave the dream world. In terms of him going evil. I totally expect that, and i have all ready made plans for that. I let PC's do whatever they want they just have to deal with the consequences of their actions.So, thanks again for all the help, I have everything pretty much set up. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />MB</blockquote>

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