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<blockquote data-quote="Li Shenron" data-source="post: 2791362" data-attributes="member: 1465"><p>That's because if you start using tactics just to screw his own tactic, you ARE picking on him.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is what I don't fully understand. I've played with a couple of bad players who were not contributing well to the fights (but I have to say, it's them who usually risked getting killed, not the others) and often actually ended up involuntarily being an obstacle to the others' tactics. But I was playing my PC well enough and I was having a lot of fun... it wouldn't spoil my fun to have a character who does nothing but defend itself. Clearly, I'd prefer all the characters to be important, otherwise it's like reading a novel or watchin a movie where there's a character in every scene but doesn't do much, which is surely a sort of waste.</p><p></p><p>IMO the group is irritated because they can't prevent their characters from dying, either because the encounters are too strong on the average or because they are not playing well enough. So they are getting frustrated and decide to blame it on the guy who's never died... <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/paranoid.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":uhoh:" title="Paranoid :uhoh:" data-shortname=":uhoh:" /> From the description it seems that the Wizard is definitely contributing to the fights! If he's defending himself "too much", why don't the others do the same? Are the front line fighters rushing into melee, or are they for instance trying to work in formation, using defensive feats or actions, and of course ask for support spells?</p><p></p><p>The equipment thing is indeed bad instead, especially if the Wizard gets to keep more in the process, but I already suggested that the DM is making a mistake in stacking old- and new- PCs stuff.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Absolutely, the personality would be just a lame excuse, no question about that.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Mah, sounds to me that the others were more jerk than him at the end, sorry.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Li Shenron, post: 2791362, member: 1465"] That's because if you start using tactics just to screw his own tactic, you ARE picking on him. This is what I don't fully understand. I've played with a couple of bad players who were not contributing well to the fights (but I have to say, it's them who usually risked getting killed, not the others) and often actually ended up involuntarily being an obstacle to the others' tactics. But I was playing my PC well enough and I was having a lot of fun... it wouldn't spoil my fun to have a character who does nothing but defend itself. Clearly, I'd prefer all the characters to be important, otherwise it's like reading a novel or watchin a movie where there's a character in every scene but doesn't do much, which is surely a sort of waste. IMO the group is irritated because they can't prevent their characters from dying, either because the encounters are too strong on the average or because they are not playing well enough. So they are getting frustrated and decide to blame it on the guy who's never died... :uhoh: From the description it seems that the Wizard is definitely contributing to the fights! If he's defending himself "too much", why don't the others do the same? Are the front line fighters rushing into melee, or are they for instance trying to work in formation, using defensive feats or actions, and of course ask for support spells? The equipment thing is indeed bad instead, especially if the Wizard gets to keep more in the process, but I already suggested that the DM is making a mistake in stacking old- and new- PCs stuff. Absolutely, the personality would be just a lame excuse, no question about that. Mah, sounds to me that the others were more jerk than him at the end, sorry. [/QUOTE]
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