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<blockquote data-quote="Gizzard" data-source="post: 724885" data-attributes="member: 527"><p>Maybe my C bias is showing here, but I thought the Java App bandwagon came and went long before the year 2003. When people say "its fast for a cross-platform language" it highlights the basic problem - it is slow and it is always going to be slow. Not to mention quirky little issues like Swing which show that the dream of 100% compatibility is going to remain exactly a dream. IMHO.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, I say that as an explanation of why I was dismissive of Java rather than as an invitation to a Holy Programming Language War. ;-) </p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Proficiency or experience? I could put a ton of languages that I've dabbled in on a resume, but I would truthfully only say that I am proficient in C. And maybe some obsolete assembly languages. ;-) I can't think of many people that I work with that I would hire for a Java gig even though several of us have at least looked at the language - I'd prefer to hire people who were doing Java day-in, day-out.</p><p></p><p>I mention that because as a project manager I'd want to see some ability to manage a C project from CMP before I hired them. A 90 day schedule doesnt leave you a lot of time to config SourceSafe and VC6 if you have to start from ground zero. And thats just the tools issues; not to mention some time to shake the rust off if you've been away from C for a couple years.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, I dont know what the CMP guys do in their work day; they could all be C programmers by day and Java hobbyists by night. In which case its a great idea to hire them to fix up e-Tools. If there is an implicit vote of "no confidence" in my even bringing this subject up, its more in Wizards ability to understand software development and hire an appropriate dev house to do the work it needs done. I mean, CMP has shown that they can go from zero to product in a reasonable amount of time, so I really dont intend to slam them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gizzard, post: 724885, member: 527"] Maybe my C bias is showing here, but I thought the Java App bandwagon came and went long before the year 2003. When people say "its fast for a cross-platform language" it highlights the basic problem - it is slow and it is always going to be slow. Not to mention quirky little issues like Swing which show that the dream of 100% compatibility is going to remain exactly a dream. IMHO. Anyway, I say that as an explanation of why I was dismissive of Java rather than as an invitation to a Holy Programming Language War. ;-) Proficiency or experience? I could put a ton of languages that I've dabbled in on a resume, but I would truthfully only say that I am proficient in C. And maybe some obsolete assembly languages. ;-) I can't think of many people that I work with that I would hire for a Java gig even though several of us have at least looked at the language - I'd prefer to hire people who were doing Java day-in, day-out. I mention that because as a project manager I'd want to see some ability to manage a C project from CMP before I hired them. A 90 day schedule doesnt leave you a lot of time to config SourceSafe and VC6 if you have to start from ground zero. And thats just the tools issues; not to mention some time to shake the rust off if you've been away from C for a couple years. Anyway, I dont know what the CMP guys do in their work day; they could all be C programmers by day and Java hobbyists by night. In which case its a great idea to hire them to fix up e-Tools. If there is an implicit vote of "no confidence" in my even bringing this subject up, its more in Wizards ability to understand software development and hire an appropriate dev house to do the work it needs done. I mean, CMP has shown that they can go from zero to product in a reasonable amount of time, so I really dont intend to slam them. [/QUOTE]
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