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<blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 725342" data-attributes="member: 158"><p>Please show me how the design process, addition of new features, or the design goals of PCGen has changed in any way, shape or form with the coming of this announcement. PCGen will not slow down, since there is more than just Bryan doing the coding here.</p><p></p><p>Both E-tools and PCGen benefit from the arrangement. PCGen gets the option of datasets it didn't have before, legally. E-Tools gets the option of those same data sets, legally.</p><p></p><p>E-Tools users get support that they were entitled to, but lost due to business issues. PCGen was not, and will most likely not be, affected by the process; in addition to the fact that there are more code monkeys than are CMP employees, we have been given assurances that everything will still go on schedule.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The official statement is "mutually beneficial; from outside appearances, however, CMP still holds the most important cards. PCGen is still free. E-Tools is not. Both have to pay for data sets - same price, I'm willing to bet. E-tools has more windows users, PCGen has users in other OS'es.</p><p></p><p>PCGen has lost nothing. </p><p></p><p>Is your apprehension that PCGen has been damaged based on a belief that the two programs cannot compete on a level playing field? They have the most level of playing fields now; heck, they're supported by some of the same people! <em>(though not all of same; see above.)</em></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I really don't see the game, here. If anything, CMP got the good end of the stick. I don't know for certain, but I am guessing that there is involved some monetary compensation in addition to getting a license to sell data sets - I certainly hope so, because I hate to think Bryan, Greg, Robert, et. al. are doing it all for just selling data sets.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>PCGen is directed by Bryan McRoberts; I'm guessing he kept ownership of the name, and therefore he'll decide when and if it ever needs to be handed over.</p><p></p><p>But I will re-iterate a point another poster made: <em>If a person feels that PCGen has gone astray, they are certainly within the rights of the Public License to take the code base for PCGen and develop it themselves.</em> If a person feels the program is going wrong, then fork it. They owe it to themselves, and to their beliefs.</p><p></p><p>Otherwise, trust Merton Monk and Mynex and the other Head Bananas just a bit longer. They've stewarded this project for almost three years now; they're not homicidal parents.</p><p></p><p>I for one am almost celebratory: The poor orphan-child known as E-Tools has finally found adoptive parents; PCGen is getting a new relative, and both of them have had the papers drawn up for their long-overdue inheritance.</p><p></p><p>"Options, not restrictions." It's the mantra for 3E, and it applies to the new deal between WotC and Code Monkey Publishing, too. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Henry, post: 725342, member: 158"] Please show me how the design process, addition of new features, or the design goals of PCGen has changed in any way, shape or form with the coming of this announcement. PCGen will not slow down, since there is more than just Bryan doing the coding here. Both E-tools and PCGen benefit from the arrangement. PCGen gets the option of datasets it didn't have before, legally. E-Tools gets the option of those same data sets, legally. E-Tools users get support that they were entitled to, but lost due to business issues. PCGen was not, and will most likely not be, affected by the process; in addition to the fact that there are more code monkeys than are CMP employees, we have been given assurances that everything will still go on schedule. The official statement is "mutually beneficial; from outside appearances, however, CMP still holds the most important cards. PCGen is still free. E-Tools is not. Both have to pay for data sets - same price, I'm willing to bet. E-tools has more windows users, PCGen has users in other OS'es. PCGen has lost nothing. Is your apprehension that PCGen has been damaged based on a belief that the two programs cannot compete on a level playing field? They have the most level of playing fields now; heck, they're supported by some of the same people! [i](though not all of same; see above.)[/i] I really don't see the game, here. If anything, CMP got the good end of the stick. I don't know for certain, but I am guessing that there is involved some monetary compensation in addition to getting a license to sell data sets - I certainly hope so, because I hate to think Bryan, Greg, Robert, et. al. are doing it all for just selling data sets. PCGen is directed by Bryan McRoberts; I'm guessing he kept ownership of the name, and therefore he'll decide when and if it ever needs to be handed over. But I will re-iterate a point another poster made: [I]If a person feels that PCGen has gone astray, they are certainly within the rights of the Public License to take the code base for PCGen and develop it themselves.[/I] If a person feels the program is going wrong, then fork it. They owe it to themselves, and to their beliefs. Otherwise, trust Merton Monk and Mynex and the other Head Bananas just a bit longer. They've stewarded this project for almost three years now; they're not homicidal parents. I for one am almost celebratory: The poor orphan-child known as E-Tools has finally found adoptive parents; PCGen is getting a new relative, and both of them have had the papers drawn up for their long-overdue inheritance. "Options, not restrictions." It's the mantra for 3E, and it applies to the new deal between WotC and Code Monkey Publishing, too. :) [/QUOTE]
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