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<blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 726409" data-attributes="member: 158"><p>Let me clarify a little...</p><p></p><p></p><p>My statement presumes that the naysayers of the direction of PCGen have been following and contributing to the existing design process, and are happy with the direction the code is going in now. If they haven't been involved until now, then they really shouldn't be concerned about this deal to begin with, and should be following their own efforts, as you say.</p><p></p><p>WotC has obviously seen enough to know they want CMP to handle the contract. CMP obviously has seen enough to know that the specific software fixes promised to WotC are accomplishable within 90 days. On CMP's site (can't recall exactly where right now) is a specific list of the issues that they will address. According to Mynex, several have been fixed within the past week. Both parties are confident the contract is able to be fulfilled.</p><p></p><p>Since neither of us nor most of the forum members were involved, neither of us have enough info to squarely place the blame of WotC's shoulders alone. Fluid may have as much financial culpability as WotC in the venture. All we have to go on is personal allegations and rumor, and most of it from individuals biased by the situation.</p><p></p><p>No offense to Luke, but his situation is different.</p><p>1) RPM cannot run cross-platform, a situation that becomes more relevant as time goes on.</p><p>2) Luke charges for his time and effort, and has a financial stake in RPM, which the majority of the PCGen coders do not.</p><p>3) I have successfully used PCGen as a full-featured character generator, offering every character option imaginable, since December of 2000. A user base of about 5,000 others have had similar success. In what way has it not fulfilled its value?</p><p></p><p>I'll thank you to leave my hammers alone, please. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>Twin Rose CS and RPM are fine programs. They also aren't cheap, and have upgrade costs associated down the road. They also cost me time and effort in entering the data I need to enter, since they do not carry a lot of d20 OGL content. This is why I do not use them, or actively support them. Their program designs do not fit my needs.</p><p></p><p>With respect to the licensing deal: My comments are specifically delivered toward users who assume that this license means that PCGen has somehow lost functionality, or "sold out." It has the same functionality it did prior to the announcement, and will not likely lose any. In fact, my "options" statement is referring to the fact that users now have the option for MORE functionality, not less. I've said it before, and I'll repeat, PCGen has lost nothing.</p><p></p><p>I am sorry if it concerns you that other d20 software makers were not included, but they have every right and opportunity to approach WotC with their own proposals. Code Monkey Publishing cannot very well cut deals for all publishers across the board - they can only speak for themselves, and they have. CMP negotiated a deal, and they offer WotC a service that WotC needs. They gain is not automatically other publishers' loss.</p><p></p><p>I sorry we don't agree here, but I've got nothing but concrete use from PCgen over the years, with minor bugs to show for it, same as every program I have ever used.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Henry, post: 726409, member: 158"] Let me clarify a little... My statement presumes that the naysayers of the direction of PCGen have been following and contributing to the existing design process, and are happy with the direction the code is going in now. If they haven't been involved until now, then they really shouldn't be concerned about this deal to begin with, and should be following their own efforts, as you say. WotC has obviously seen enough to know they want CMP to handle the contract. CMP obviously has seen enough to know that the specific software fixes promised to WotC are accomplishable within 90 days. On CMP's site (can't recall exactly where right now) is a specific list of the issues that they will address. According to Mynex, several have been fixed within the past week. Both parties are confident the contract is able to be fulfilled. Since neither of us nor most of the forum members were involved, neither of us have enough info to squarely place the blame of WotC's shoulders alone. Fluid may have as much financial culpability as WotC in the venture. All we have to go on is personal allegations and rumor, and most of it from individuals biased by the situation. No offense to Luke, but his situation is different. 1) RPM cannot run cross-platform, a situation that becomes more relevant as time goes on. 2) Luke charges for his time and effort, and has a financial stake in RPM, which the majority of the PCGen coders do not. 3) I have successfully used PCGen as a full-featured character generator, offering every character option imaginable, since December of 2000. A user base of about 5,000 others have had similar success. In what way has it not fulfilled its value? I'll thank you to leave my hammers alone, please. :D Twin Rose CS and RPM are fine programs. They also aren't cheap, and have upgrade costs associated down the road. They also cost me time and effort in entering the data I need to enter, since they do not carry a lot of d20 OGL content. This is why I do not use them, or actively support them. Their program designs do not fit my needs. With respect to the licensing deal: My comments are specifically delivered toward users who assume that this license means that PCGen has somehow lost functionality, or "sold out." It has the same functionality it did prior to the announcement, and will not likely lose any. In fact, my "options" statement is referring to the fact that users now have the option for MORE functionality, not less. I've said it before, and I'll repeat, PCGen has lost nothing. I am sorry if it concerns you that other d20 software makers were not included, but they have every right and opportunity to approach WotC with their own proposals. Code Monkey Publishing cannot very well cut deals for all publishers across the board - they can only speak for themselves, and they have. CMP negotiated a deal, and they offer WotC a service that WotC needs. They gain is not automatically other publishers' loss. I sorry we don't agree here, but I've got nothing but concrete use from PCgen over the years, with minor bugs to show for it, same as every program I have ever used. [/QUOTE]
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