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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Henry" data-source="post: 726887" data-attributes="member: 158">Hollywood:I could keep debating you point for point, but that would still get us nowhere. While it's clear you are unhappy with the options as they are, I have to say that I am, and that most E-tools users will likely be as well. No support for a product they purchased is far worse than support from a company that has apparent qualifications to do so. Disparagement of WotC over poor choices by previous managers doesn't help anyone, least of all the user base.I still don't see where this is a thorn to the users or developers of Character utility software. This is not some anti-competitive business deal; it's a license to let two programs get extra data support, that doesn't shut anyone else out from making their own deals, should they take initiative to do so.I do have to ask for a favor, if you would: could you please provide a couple of examples of house rules that PCGen cannot handle? I honestly have never seen a character generation house rule anywhere that PCGen cannot currently handle, outside of extra ability scores or attributes, and in the near future even those will be taken into account. Also, PCgen has LST editors that should continue to improve, so anything that can be modeled with a formula of some sort is addable; the only things that aren't added are situational bonuses, which you don't necessarily want to see added to your base scores anyway.Luke:I appreciate your weighing in on this. Since it's been at least six months since I looked at either RPM or Twin Rose CS, I haven't been up on current status for RPM. I also appreciate the clarification on your lack of upgrade charge, since I couldn't find the definitive answer to that on your site this morning. Most softwares do not have free upgrades for their major version number changes, and I commend you for doing it, in an age where it's non-standard.However, my statement about compensation still stands, if amended. Coders of PCGen outside of the CMP members receive no monetary compensation whatsoever for their code efforts, to my knowledge - I certainly understand that using effective API's, controls, and libraries for Windows programs costs money. But there is at least a materials compensation involved, by your statement. And the monetary compensation by CMP staff is fairly recent, to my understanding.It is interesting though: I replied to this thread in response to Wanderer's concerns: that of a PCGen user who thinks the deal is detrimental to what he considered a good product; Hollywood, however, introduced me to a whole new consumer: one who simply doesn't like PCGen, and thinks this WotC/CMP deal is detrimental for the other 3rd party publishers! Leave it to Luke, however, to make lemonade with it all. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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