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PCs are supposed to be able to stand up to deities?
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<blockquote data-quote="Kae'Yoss" data-source="post: 166551" data-attributes="member: 4134"><p>"You should roll the d20 anyway and use that roll to</p><p>check for a threat or a critical hit."</p><p></p><p>That sounds to me that you have to roll a d20 to see if it is a threat! That's also the way it makes sense. If they really get a natural 20 automatically and always maximize their rolls, why would they have to check for the crit? They'd roll attack, would (automatically) get a 20, hitting automatically and posing a threat. On the "roll" to see if it is an actual crit, they'd also get a nat 20, another automatical hit! So they'd always make a critical hit. </p><p>And that would mean that, when greater gods fight each other with their weapons, they would not have to roll at all, cause they would always get crits. So you can dump the AC of the two, determine how much damage they deal per round and see who holds out longer. Why then stat gods out in the first place?</p><p></p><p>Also, the maximize entry in the web enhancement states the following:</p><p></p><p>"For instance, when Erbin makes an attack roll, assume you rolled a 20 and calculate success or failure from there."</p><p></p><p>Why would you ever calculate success or failure when he has 2 natural 20's? </p><p></p><p></p><p>I think, concerning the maximize rolls rule, it is asumed they get a 20, but not a NATURAL 20. For that they still have to actually roll a die.</p><p></p><p></p><p>And consider a god having a vorpal sword (OK, that's not much of an issue since they are veritable one hit killers anyway!)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kae'Yoss, post: 166551, member: 4134"] "You should roll the d20 anyway and use that roll to check for a threat or a critical hit." That sounds to me that you have to roll a d20 to see if it is a threat! That's also the way it makes sense. If they really get a natural 20 automatically and always maximize their rolls, why would they have to check for the crit? They'd roll attack, would (automatically) get a 20, hitting automatically and posing a threat. On the "roll" to see if it is an actual crit, they'd also get a nat 20, another automatical hit! So they'd always make a critical hit. And that would mean that, when greater gods fight each other with their weapons, they would not have to roll at all, cause they would always get crits. So you can dump the AC of the two, determine how much damage they deal per round and see who holds out longer. Why then stat gods out in the first place? Also, the maximize entry in the web enhancement states the following: "For instance, when Erbin makes an attack roll, assume you rolled a 20 and calculate success or failure from there." Why would you ever calculate success or failure when he has 2 natural 20's? I think, concerning the maximize rolls rule, it is asumed they get a 20, but not a NATURAL 20. For that they still have to actually roll a die. And consider a god having a vorpal sword (OK, that's not much of an issue since they are veritable one hit killers anyway!) [/QUOTE]
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