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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 6174898" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>The campaign is in its 5th year (Jan 2009 start). We play around 20 sessions a year (every two to three weeks), so gain about 5 levels per year. Currently the PCs are 23rd.</p><p></p><p>If you're interested, <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/tabletop-gaming/299440-exploration-scenarios-my-experiment-last-sunday.html" target="_blank">here</a> <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/tabletop-gaming/301282-actual-play-examples-balance-between-fiction-mechanics.html" target="_blank">are</a> <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/d-d-pathfinder/308093-combatless-sessions.html" target="_blank">some</a> <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/d-d-pathfinder/309950-actual-play-my-first-social-only-session.html" target="_blank">links</a> <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/d-d-pathfinder/312367-actual-play-another-combat-free-session-intra-party-dyanmics.html" target="_blank">to</a> <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/tabletop-gaming/313724-actual-play-pcs-successfully-negotiated-kas.html" target="_blank">some</a> <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/d-d-pathfinder/319168-pcs-defeat-calastryx-get-up-some-other-hijinks.html" target="_blank">other</a> <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/d-d-pathfinder/319889-doppelganger-mayhem-long-lead-up.html" target="_blank">actual</a> <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/d-d-pathfinder/324018-wizard-pc-dies-returns-invoker.html" target="_blank">play</a> <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?324955-Whelm-reforged-as-Overwhelm- and-other-recent-skill-challenges" target="_blank">reports</a> <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/d-d-pathfinder/330383-underdark-adventure-demons-beholders-elementals-hydra.html" target="_blank">that</a> <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/6039139-post73.html" target="_blank">I</a> <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?332755-PCs-bring-destruction-down-upon-the-duergar" target="_blank">have</a> <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?335974-I-ran-my-first-Epic-session-last-Sunday" target="_blank">posted</a>.</p><p></p><p>As far as the mythology is concerned, I tend to find the 4e sourcebooks are pitched at a pretty good level - enough information to generate ideas and flavour, but not so tightly locked down that actual play makes no difference. Some get a little bit into exploration for explorations's sake (eg the islands in The Plane Above; some parts of The Plane Below and Demonomicon) but I just ignore them.</p><p></p><p>I'm also a big fan of following the players' leads. Ometh went from being some fill-in narration in a necromancer's tower to a major plot element because the player of the paladin picked up on it.</p><p></p><p>I'm using a variant of the "official" version of Mal Arundak - the Crystal of Ebon Flame and the Ebon Stone are the same thing, and (at least as far as the PCs know) contain the essence of the Elder Elemental Eye. I won't say more because I have players who read these forums from time to time.</p><p></p><p>It's interesting that you mention Erathis, because one of the Raven Queen cultists is also an Erathis worshipper too (an invoker currently in the service of Erathis, Ioun, Vecna, the Raven Queen, Bane and Levistus) who wields the Rod of Erathis/Sceptre of Law/Rod of 7 (currently 5) Parts. There is a degree of tension in the group over the proper balance between life and death, order (eg to be achieved by restoring the Lattice of Heaven) and chaos, heavens and the mortal world, gods and primordials. How the Far Realm fits into that isn't clear yet, but I think all the PCs are fairly hostile to a takeover from the Outer Void.</p><p></p><p>I came up with the idea for the bridge on a long thread on these boards - the one with Hussar and Celebrim about crossing an Abyssal desert on a huge centipede. At the moment it's more a motif than anything very well developed, but I think it is likely to be explored in due course, along with the Soul Abattoir.</p><p></p><p>I don't think I'd go as far as a corrupted Raven Queen - I feel that could push too far in terms of invalidating player choices around the PCs devoted to her. But she will certainly stay in the foreground, and be a focus for intraparty tensions and external action.</p><p></p><p>One of the other Raven Queen cultists in the party is a demon and undead hunter (ranger-cleric/Battlefield Archer/Demigod) whose destiny is at present unclear, but could head in an interesting direction, particularly with power vacuums arising within Letherna!</p><p></p><p>The chaos drow, who worships Corellon and also Chan (patron of good air elementals) has a long term goal of defeating Lolth and undoing the sundering of the elves. And also has an odd alliance with the invoker who wields the staff of law, and the fighter/cleric of Moradin. Plus the PCs earlier swore an oath to Kas, after giving him back his sword, to track down Jenna Osternath (a Vecna worshipper whom they met in the past when they had a little time travel adventure).</p><p></p><p>So the endgame is not clear, but is likely to involve star spawn, Letherna, the Bridge, Kas vs Vecna, Torog and his Soul Abattoir, law & lattice vs chaos & primordials, Lolth and elves! I'm also trying to get Ygorl, the lord of entropy who travels backwards in time from the end of the universe, into the mix. And also would like the idea of a "journey into deep myth" as The Plane Above calls it, or a Heroquest to use the Gloranthan terminology.</p><p></p><p>Given the way that I've been using it, I'm not sure about the replay value of 4e and its backstory, but for me that's fine - when this game finishes, I'm hoping to start a Burning Wheel campaign.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 6174898, member: 42582"] The campaign is in its 5th year (Jan 2009 start). We play around 20 sessions a year (every two to three weeks), so gain about 5 levels per year. Currently the PCs are 23rd. If you're interested, [url=http://www.enworld.org/forum/tabletop-gaming/299440-exploration-scenarios-my-experiment-last-sunday.html]here[/url] [url=http://www.enworld.org/forum/tabletop-gaming/301282-actual-play-examples-balance-between-fiction-mechanics.html]are[/url] [url=http://www.enworld.org/forum/d-d-pathfinder/308093-combatless-sessions.html]some[/url] [url=http://www.enworld.org/forum/d-d-pathfinder/309950-actual-play-my-first-social-only-session.html]links[/url] [url=http://www.enworld.org/forum/d-d-pathfinder/312367-actual-play-another-combat-free-session-intra-party-dyanmics.html]to[/url] [url=http://www.enworld.org/forum/tabletop-gaming/313724-actual-play-pcs-successfully-negotiated-kas.html]some[/url] [url=http://www.enworld.org/forum/d-d-pathfinder/319168-pcs-defeat-calastryx-get-up-some-other-hijinks.html]other[/url] [url=http://www.enworld.org/forum/d-d-pathfinder/319889-doppelganger-mayhem-long-lead-up.html]actual[/url] [url=http://www.enworld.org/forum/d-d-pathfinder/324018-wizard-pc-dies-returns-invoker.html]play[/url] [url=http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?324955-Whelm-reforged-as-Overwhelm- and-other-recent-skill-challenges]reports[/url] [url=http://www.enworld.org/forum/d-d-pathfinder/330383-underdark-adventure-demons-beholders-elementals-hydra.html]that[/url] [url=http://www.enworld.org/forum/6039139-post73.html]I[/url] [url=http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?332755-PCs-bring-destruction-down-upon-the-duergar]have[/url] [url=http://www.enworld.org/forum/showthread.php?335974-I-ran-my-first-Epic-session-last-Sunday]posted[/url]. As far as the mythology is concerned, I tend to find the 4e sourcebooks are pitched at a pretty good level - enough information to generate ideas and flavour, but not so tightly locked down that actual play makes no difference. Some get a little bit into exploration for explorations's sake (eg the islands in The Plane Above; some parts of The Plane Below and Demonomicon) but I just ignore them. I'm also a big fan of following the players' leads. Ometh went from being some fill-in narration in a necromancer's tower to a major plot element because the player of the paladin picked up on it. I'm using a variant of the "official" version of Mal Arundak - the Crystal of Ebon Flame and the Ebon Stone are the same thing, and (at least as far as the PCs know) contain the essence of the Elder Elemental Eye. I won't say more because I have players who read these forums from time to time. It's interesting that you mention Erathis, because one of the Raven Queen cultists is also an Erathis worshipper too (an invoker currently in the service of Erathis, Ioun, Vecna, the Raven Queen, Bane and Levistus) who wields the Rod of Erathis/Sceptre of Law/Rod of 7 (currently 5) Parts. There is a degree of tension in the group over the proper balance between life and death, order (eg to be achieved by restoring the Lattice of Heaven) and chaos, heavens and the mortal world, gods and primordials. How the Far Realm fits into that isn't clear yet, but I think all the PCs are fairly hostile to a takeover from the Outer Void. I came up with the idea for the bridge on a long thread on these boards - the one with Hussar and Celebrim about crossing an Abyssal desert on a huge centipede. At the moment it's more a motif than anything very well developed, but I think it is likely to be explored in due course, along with the Soul Abattoir. I don't think I'd go as far as a corrupted Raven Queen - I feel that could push too far in terms of invalidating player choices around the PCs devoted to her. But she will certainly stay in the foreground, and be a focus for intraparty tensions and external action. One of the other Raven Queen cultists in the party is a demon and undead hunter (ranger-cleric/Battlefield Archer/Demigod) whose destiny is at present unclear, but could head in an interesting direction, particularly with power vacuums arising within Letherna! The chaos drow, who worships Corellon and also Chan (patron of good air elementals) has a long term goal of defeating Lolth and undoing the sundering of the elves. And also has an odd alliance with the invoker who wields the staff of law, and the fighter/cleric of Moradin. Plus the PCs earlier swore an oath to Kas, after giving him back his sword, to track down Jenna Osternath (a Vecna worshipper whom they met in the past when they had a little time travel adventure). So the endgame is not clear, but is likely to involve star spawn, Letherna, the Bridge, Kas vs Vecna, Torog and his Soul Abattoir, law & lattice vs chaos & primordials, Lolth and elves! I'm also trying to get Ygorl, the lord of entropy who travels backwards in time from the end of the universe, into the mix. And also would like the idea of a "journey into deep myth" as The Plane Above calls it, or a Heroquest to use the Gloranthan terminology. Given the way that I've been using it, I'm not sure about the replay value of 4e and its backstory, but for me that's fine - when this game finishes, I'm hoping to start a Burning Wheel campaign. [/QUOTE]
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