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<blockquote data-quote="hong" data-source="post: 76472" data-attributes="member: 537">And as I was saying myself, your example wouldn't work in 3E. In fact, I don't think your example would even work in 2E against a wizard; 2E wizards were possibly even more powerful than their 3E counterparts, relatively speaking....You have a remarkably thin skin for a DM.I came up with ways to outwit your example, and therefore _I_ need to think laterally?3E evens out the power relationship somewhat between the different classes; thus a 20th level wizard is no longer quite as godlike and a rogue isn't quite as useless as before. However, if anything, it's made the gap between low- and high-level even wider than it was before (with the aforementioned exception of wizards). A 20th level fighter in 2E has 9d10 + 9xCon bonus + 33 hp IIRC; the same fighter in 3E would have 20d10 + 20xCon bonus, and the Con bonus would be bigger than it was before. The 3E fighter would also have more iterative attacks, unless you used the mastery rules in the PO splatbooks (and they only applied for one specific weapon) and do more damage per hit. There are other differences, but those are the ones that spring to mind.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="hong, post: 76472, member: 537"] And as I was saying myself, your example wouldn't work in 3E. In fact, I don't think your example would even work in 2E against a wizard; 2E wizards were possibly even more powerful than their 3E counterparts, relatively speaking.... You have a remarkably thin skin for a DM. I came up with ways to outwit your example, and therefore _I_ need to think laterally? 3E evens out the power relationship somewhat between the different classes; thus a 20th level wizard is no longer quite as godlike and a rogue isn't quite as useless as before. However, if anything, it's made the gap between low- and high-level even wider than it was before (with the aforementioned exception of wizards). A 20th level fighter in 2E has 9d10 + 9xCon bonus + 33 hp IIRC; the same fighter in 3E would have 20d10 + 20xCon bonus, and the Con bonus would be bigger than it was before. The 3E fighter would also have more iterative attacks, unless you used the mastery rules in the PO splatbooks (and they only applied for one specific weapon) and do more damage per hit. There are other differences, but those are the ones that spring to mind. [/QUOTE]

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