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<blockquote data-quote="BSF" data-source="post: 1109542" data-attributes="member: 13098">See, this I have no problems with!&nbsp; If you want to push your luck because you are lusting for power, great!&nbsp; Just don't all weepy eyed if it gets you killed.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp; Generally speaking, I am not out to get my players.&nbsp; I am out to give the characters a living world to adventure in.&nbsp; I was lucky with my group in that I established I wasn't afraid to kill them off if they got into a bad situation.&nbsp; But, I am also not afraid to let them succeed.&nbsp; So, they seem to enjoy the game.&nbsp; Though, they still take some risks that aren't exactly healthy.&nbsp; And they still get far too much into metagame thinking.Example:&nbsp; Party encounters a half-fiendish Blue with some levels, leading a band of 30 goblins.&nbsp; Party toasts the goblins quick, but the melee combatants can't touch the Blue.&nbsp; He is all happy until&nbsp; the Sorceror hits him with Magic Missiles.&nbsp; And the Psion starts Inflicting Pain.&nbsp; Keep in mind that none of the other characters has even hurt this guy.&nbsp; Not even 1 point.&nbsp; But, the Psion and the Sorceror are starting to drop his HP!The Blue tumbles out of melee, starts beating up the Sorceror.&nbsp; Melee combatants still can't hit this guy.&nbsp; (Combo of bad rolls and high NPC AC.)&nbsp; Blue manages to kill Sorceror before Psion brings him down.&nbsp; The other combatants did manage to hit once.&nbsp; The Sorceror player thought I was out to get him.&nbsp; He couldn't grasp the mindset of the Blue.&nbsp; &quot;These yokels with swords, etc, can't touch me.&nbsp; I can take them out at leisure.&nbsp; That spellcasty guy and the girl with mind powers like mine are a threat that I need to get rid of!&quot;&nbsp; No, the Sorceror is thinking that the NPC _should_ have stayed in toe-to-toe with the fighters and just let himself get magic-ed/psionic-ed to death.&nbsp; *shaking my head sadly*&nbsp; Metagame thinking that if he stayed back out of melee range, the NPC's would never dare try to get behind the fighters.&nbsp; Yeah, 'cause that's what the PC's would do.&nbsp; They would just keep fighting the front line cannon fodder and let the spellcasters in the back ranks cast spells.&nbsp; Silly!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BSF, post: 1109542, member: 13098"] See, this I have no problems with! If you want to push your luck because you are lusting for power, great! Just don't all weepy eyed if it gets you killed. :) Generally speaking, I am not out to get my players. I am out to give the characters a living world to adventure in. I was lucky with my group in that I established I wasn't afraid to kill them off if they got into a bad situation. But, I am also not afraid to let them succeed. So, they seem to enjoy the game. Though, they still take some risks that aren't exactly healthy. And they still get far too much into metagame thinking. Example: Party encounters a half-fiendish Blue with some levels, leading a band of 30 goblins. Party toasts the goblins quick, but the melee combatants can't touch the Blue. He is all happy until the Sorceror hits him with Magic Missiles. And the Psion starts Inflicting Pain. Keep in mind that none of the other characters has even hurt this guy. Not even 1 point. But, the Psion and the Sorceror are starting to drop his HP! The Blue tumbles out of melee, starts beating up the Sorceror. Melee combatants still can't hit this guy. (Combo of bad rolls and high NPC AC.) Blue manages to kill Sorceror before Psion brings him down. The other combatants did manage to hit once. The Sorceror player thought I was out to get him. He couldn't grasp the mindset of the Blue. "These yokels with swords, etc, can't touch me. I can take them out at leisure. That spellcasty guy and the girl with mind powers like mine are a threat that I need to get rid of!" No, the Sorceror is thinking that the NPC _should_ have stayed in toe-to-toe with the fighters and just let himself get magic-ed/psionic-ed to death. *shaking my head sadly* Metagame thinking that if he stayed back out of melee range, the NPC's would never dare try to get behind the fighters. Yeah, 'cause that's what the PC's would do. They would just keep fighting the front line cannon fodder and let the spellcasters in the back ranks cast spells. Silly! [/QUOTE]

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