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PCs that are too big for their britches...do they live or die?
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<blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 6358565" data-attributes="member: 92511"><p>Reynard's point above about political power is well heeded. "Let's see if a month in the stocks will teach you some respect." "Guards! To the dungeons with this one." etc... are all good, "believable/realistic" ways to handle this sort of thing. They don't have to be "the BBEG raises her finger and calmly casts Disintegrate. Save roll please." to be badass or feared or simply worthy of basic, common sense kinds of respect <em>in the game world.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p>As to the "the player has a right" bs, others seem to have responded to this well enough. I'd just add exactly what I did above, it's about respect...in the game world...as much as, if not moreso for me, the meta-game.</p><p></p><p>If you're playing a mouthy malcontent, then fine. Have your snide or hopefully witty quips and comebacks. "Comic Book", for lack of a better term, or "Action Movie" dialogue can be fun and add to the scene. The Paladin staring the archvillain in the face with a scowl and proclaiming "We'll never kneel to the likes of you!" is great, flavorful and likely in character from a PC or player perspective. The paladin [not the player!] really might not be afraid of the villain. The thief halfling cowering in the rear ranks and adding "Well, maybe we could kneel a little." is similarly so. The player just being boastful or crude, a la, "How 'bout you kneel and suck my..." is, generally, not (unless the PC is crude all of the time) in character. And that, I think, is where the objections are coming in.</p><p></p><p>No one is saying what a player can or can't have their character do/say whatever you want...but then you, as the player, should be prepared to accept the in game consequences of your actions! The player, absolutely, has a right to play their PC as they see fit. And the DM, absolutely, has the right to take that play and have the game world respond accordingly. That's D&D.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="steeldragons, post: 6358565, member: 92511"] Reynard's point above about political power is well heeded. "Let's see if a month in the stocks will teach you some respect." "Guards! To the dungeons with this one." etc... are all good, "believable/realistic" ways to handle this sort of thing. They don't have to be "the BBEG raises her finger and calmly casts Disintegrate. Save roll please." to be badass or feared or simply worthy of basic, common sense kinds of respect [I]in the game world. [/I] As to the "the player has a right" bs, others seem to have responded to this well enough. I'd just add exactly what I did above, it's about respect...in the game world...as much as, if not moreso for me, the meta-game. If you're playing a mouthy malcontent, then fine. Have your snide or hopefully witty quips and comebacks. "Comic Book", for lack of a better term, or "Action Movie" dialogue can be fun and add to the scene. The Paladin staring the archvillain in the face with a scowl and proclaiming "We'll never kneel to the likes of you!" is great, flavorful and likely in character from a PC or player perspective. The paladin [not the player!] really might not be afraid of the villain. The thief halfling cowering in the rear ranks and adding "Well, maybe we could kneel a little." is similarly so. The player just being boastful or crude, a la, "How 'bout you kneel and suck my..." is, generally, not (unless the PC is crude all of the time) in character. And that, I think, is where the objections are coming in. No one is saying what a player can or can't have their character do/say whatever you want...but then you, as the player, should be prepared to accept the in game consequences of your actions! The player, absolutely, has a right to play their PC as they see fit. And the DM, absolutely, has the right to take that play and have the game world respond accordingly. That's D&D. [/QUOTE]
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