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<blockquote data-quote="Herremann the Wise" data-source="post: 2628693" data-attributes="member: 11300"><p>To me it seems quite simple - not. I would offer 31gp for the pearl.</p><p></p><p><strong><em>Herremann's Convoluted Guide to Trading Goods</em></strong> TM <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p></p><p><em>Appraise the Item</em></p><p>The buyer does an Appraise Check on the item. This gives for him or her at least the "true value" of the item as far as they see it. Let's say for the current "100gp pearl" example, the buyer values it at 80gp.</p><p></p><p><em>Factor in your Cut</em></p><p>The next consideration is what the buyer is going to do with it.</p><p>- If they are a wholesaler, they will want to get their cut which could be anywhere as much as a 100% increase on cost. So now the price of the "pearl" goes down to 40gp.</p><p>- If they are more an end user they will normally offer a little bit less than what they think it is worth (let's face it, they want to make a good buy). So this might take it down to let's say 70gp for the end-user.</p><p></p><p><em>Consider other Variables</em></p><p>Other things to consider include:</p><p>- How easy is the item to get or sell? This will always reduce the price if it is easy to get or the market is saturated. So for the wholesaler, as a 100gp is reasonably standard, he might reduce the cost even further to let's say 30gp.</p><p>- Are there time issues involved? So lets say the seller wants cash straight away. Depending upon whether the price so far is easily accounted for or not will determine whether the price goes down any further. So the buyer being non-fluid of funds because of the last idiot that sold him a "100gp pearl" works the price down even further to let's say 25gp.</p><p>- Does the buyer deal with and have good knowledge of these items? In other words, how well will they trust their original appraisal. If they are not familiar, they may hedge a little and be more cautious (this will also apply to the diplomacy check below). In the current circumstance, the dealer is not unfamiliar so holds his price.</p><p></p><p><em>And finally, comes the Diplomacy Check</em></p><p>Lastly is how far the buyer will go from their base price. If you work on Helpful and Friendly as giving more then you may have a margin of 25% or even 50% more. If it is neutral then the base price will be rigidly stuck to while lower (unfriendly or hostile) means the buyer will most likely recind or halve the offer.</p><p>In this case, the buyer might pay up to 25% overs - so in this case the 25gp item may go as high as about 31gp. (Because he likes the guy).</p><p></p><p>Either the seller will agree to this price or they won't. In this case the seller understanding the nature of selling stuff agrees to the 31gp for the item (as their own appraisal valued it at 60gp).</p><p></p><p>In this way, characters or NPC's with ridiculous Diplomacy scores will affect but not too greatly the outcome while in reality, it is the appraisal of the item that should have a greater determination on it's price. Note however, that the DM is the only one who knows the precise and true value. In this way, you can't have an item inflating or deflating off the market.</p><p></p><p>Best Regards</p><p>Herremann the Wise</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Herremann the Wise, post: 2628693, member: 11300"] To me it seems quite simple - not. I would offer 31gp for the pearl. [b][i]Herremann's Convoluted Guide to Trading Goods[/i][/b] TM ;) [I]Appraise the Item[/I] The buyer does an Appraise Check on the item. This gives for him or her at least the "true value" of the item as far as they see it. Let's say for the current "100gp pearl" example, the buyer values it at 80gp. [I]Factor in your Cut[/I] The next consideration is what the buyer is going to do with it. - If they are a wholesaler, they will want to get their cut which could be anywhere as much as a 100% increase on cost. So now the price of the "pearl" goes down to 40gp. - If they are more an end user they will normally offer a little bit less than what they think it is worth (let's face it, they want to make a good buy). So this might take it down to let's say 70gp for the end-user. [I]Consider other Variables[/I] Other things to consider include: - How easy is the item to get or sell? This will always reduce the price if it is easy to get or the market is saturated. So for the wholesaler, as a 100gp is reasonably standard, he might reduce the cost even further to let's say 30gp. - Are there time issues involved? So lets say the seller wants cash straight away. Depending upon whether the price so far is easily accounted for or not will determine whether the price goes down any further. So the buyer being non-fluid of funds because of the last idiot that sold him a "100gp pearl" works the price down even further to let's say 25gp. - Does the buyer deal with and have good knowledge of these items? In other words, how well will they trust their original appraisal. If they are not familiar, they may hedge a little and be more cautious (this will also apply to the diplomacy check below). In the current circumstance, the dealer is not unfamiliar so holds his price. [i]And finally, comes the Diplomacy Check[/i] Lastly is how far the buyer will go from their base price. If you work on Helpful and Friendly as giving more then you may have a margin of 25% or even 50% more. If it is neutral then the base price will be rigidly stuck to while lower (unfriendly or hostile) means the buyer will most likely recind or halve the offer. In this case, the buyer might pay up to 25% overs - so in this case the 25gp item may go as high as about 31gp. (Because he likes the guy). Either the seller will agree to this price or they won't. In this case the seller understanding the nature of selling stuff agrees to the 31gp for the item (as their own appraisal valued it at 60gp). In this way, characters or NPC's with ridiculous Diplomacy scores will affect but not too greatly the outcome while in reality, it is the appraisal of the item that should have a greater determination on it's price. Note however, that the DM is the only one who knows the precise and true value. In this way, you can't have an item inflating or deflating off the market. Best Regards Herremann the Wise [/QUOTE]
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