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<blockquote data-quote="cougent" data-source="post: 3878438" data-attributes="member: 48665">OK, that was not clear originally, so now we are on the same page.Agreed.&nbsp; However this is also true of other players and other actions, but that never seems to get mentioned or debated, just the actions of clerics.&nbsp; A clear double standard.Refusing to heal when he has healing resources to heal would clearly fall within this statement.&nbsp; Dropping any and all prepared spells to heal someone at the moment could potentially cost the whole party more problems later on, so that would be situation dependent.I am glad you said &quot;player&quot; because that is the crux of my only dissagreement with your assertion, 1,000's of other actions fit your statement also, the tank who rushes into battle when diplomacy might have avoided a fight for instance, yet these go totally unchallenged as just status quo (eh, he's a tank, what do you expect him to do?&nbsp; Besides he gets to play his character as he wants) yet this same neutrality goes out the window for clerics who even before 4E have a &quot;role to fill&quot; decided by other players and even some DM's.&nbsp; No one enjoys being told or dictated how to play their character, not even clerics.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="cougent, post: 3878438, member: 48665"] OK, that was not clear originally, so now we are on the same page. Agreed. However this is also true of other players and other actions, but that never seems to get mentioned or debated, just the actions of clerics. A clear double standard. Refusing to heal when he has healing resources to heal would clearly fall within this statement. Dropping any and all prepared spells to heal someone at the moment could potentially cost the whole party more problems later on, so that would be situation dependent. I am glad you said "player" because that is the crux of my only dissagreement with your assertion, 1,000's of other actions fit your statement also, the tank who rushes into battle when diplomacy might have avoided a fight for instance, yet these go totally unchallenged as just status quo (eh, he's a tank, what do you expect him to do? Besides he gets to play his character as he wants) yet this same neutrality goes out the window for clerics who even before 4E have a "role to fill" decided by other players and even some DM's. No one enjoys being told or dictated how to play their character, not even clerics. [/QUOTE]

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